Wave 5 and Tournament Timing Question

By markrivett, in X-Wing

I have seen information indicating that Wave 5 will be released On September 13. There are a number of Hyperspace Trials on the 13th and 14th.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/op/x-wing/hyperspace-trials/

My understanding is (feel free to correct me if I am wrong) that wave 5 WILL be hyperspace legal for those tournaments.

My question to the community is, since the app will be updated, will there also be a points change to current ships or, possibly a "hotfix" points tweak similar to the Upsilon issue a while back?

I thought I heard that FF was trying to restrict points changes to 6-months, but I do not recall if that was an official announcement or rumor.

Thank You

We wouldn't expect any changes to existing points at this stage, but we've been surprised before...

No, wave 5 will not be legal for those Hyperspace events, even if they are in the app.

There’s a legal product guide that mandates product be out for at least so many days before it’s organized play legal, and 24 hours it is not. Closer to a week.

Just now, ScummyRebel said:

No, wave 5 will not be legal for those Hyperspace events, even if they are in the app.

There’s a legal product guide that mandates product be out for at least so many days before it’s organized play legal, and 24 hours it is not. Closer to a week.

That's usually only for Premier tier events (nationals+). For other events, release date is legal play date.

According to FFG Tournament Regulations ( here ), Hyperspace Trials are Formal Tier events. From the doc: "For Relaxed and Formal events, all product is legal in North America upon the product's official release."

So assuming they actually release on September 13th, Wave 5 is legal for Hyperspace Trials that weekend.

FFG would also have to add the new product to the hyperspace format pool for it to be usable in any Hyperspace trials that day or weekend. I expect an update, if they are going to do that, by the end of the week.

Nothing screams "WINNING" like ripping ships out of plastic and thunking them down on the table.

Edited by XPav
31 minutes ago, XPav said:

Nothing screams "WINNING" like ripping ships out of plastic and thunking them down on the table.

Upgrade cards don't make the same "thunk" as ships do. I expect some ripping of Precog Reflexes out of YWing packaging without using the YWing that weekend...

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5 hours ago, Mistborn_Jedi said:

According to FFG Tournament Regulations ( here ), Hyperspace Trials are Formal Tier events. From the doc: "For Relaxed and Formal events, all product is legal in North America upon the product's official release."

So assuming they actually release on September 13th, Wave 5 is legal for Hyperspace Trials that weekend.

CHAOS META HERE WE COME!

57 minutes ago, RStan said:

Upgrade cards don't make the same "thunk" as ships do. I expect some ripping of Precog Reflexes out of YWing packaging without using the YWing that weekend...

I Can't wait to explain what no more actions means like five times in round 1

10 minutes ago, Do I need a Username said:

I Can't wait to explain what no more actions means like five times in round 1

Just remember that that limit only applies to that specific ship's activation, they can still be coordinated or Jake'd (etc.) an action out side of their activation.

1 minute ago, Hiemfire said:

Just remember that that limit only applies to that specific ship's activation, they can still be coordinated or Jake'd (etc.) an action out side of their activation.

well yeah, but if Ion is any indicator, people will try to link / vader / afterburners

2 hours ago, RStan said:

Upgrade cards don't make the same "thunk" as ships do.

THWAP!

1 hour ago, Do I need a Username said:

CHAOS META HERE WE COME!

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Edited by kris40k

So, to be clear, new ships are Hyperspace legal on the 13th and there should be no points changes to existing ships or upgrades unless FF pulls an Upsilon-style hotfix?

Thank You

6 minutes ago, markrivett said:

So, to be clear, new ships are Hyperspace legal on the 13th and there should be no points changes to existing ships or upgrades unless FF pulls an Upsilon-style hotfix?

Thank You

Correct.

19 hours ago, XPav said:

Nothing screams "WINNING" like ripping ships out of plastic and thunking them down on the table.

19 hours ago, RStan said:

Upgrade cards don't make the same "thunk" as ships do. I expect some ripping of Precog Reflexes out of YWing packaging without using the YWing that weekend...

To add, we also have the dials of the new ships, and general idea of slots. Just guesstimate the points of a ship and you can proxy the stuff as well.

So ya... Whats the o/u on new stuff in cut per event? 1.5? 2.5?