Goodmorning lasses and gents:

The Legion national tournament is slowly approaching in italy and something came up in the official legion italy facebook group: if you position the movement tool at the base of a unit that you have decided to activate, are you obliged to move or can you decide not to move and to perform other actions?

So far we've always played with the rule that once you place the movement tool on the base you can only move. Is this really the case or have we always played wrong?

Many thanks

5 minutes ago, Rogue Three said:

Goodmorning lasses and gents:

The Legion national tournament is slowly approaching in italy and something came up in the official legion italy facebook group: if you position the movement tool at the base of a unit that you have decided to activate, are you obliged to move or can you decide not to move and to perform other actions?

So far we've always played with the rule that once you place the movement tool on the base you can only move. Is this really the case or have we always played wrong?

Many thanks

page 51 of the RRG
Players can measure with the range ruler at any time. Movement tools can be placed against a unit’s leader and adjusted freely only during that unit’s activation

to add to this if the unit is active yes you can pick up the movement tool (as nothing in the RRG states you can't) and do other actions instead.

Since you have activated you can measure all you want. There is no word in the section "Premeasuring" that says anything about "you must then move".

1 minute ago, azeronbloodmoone said:

page 51 of the RRG
Players can measure with the range ruler at any time. Movement tools can be placed against a unit’s leader and adjusted freely only during that unit’s activation

Ok we got that, but the question is: if I place the movement tool at the base of the mini MUST I move OR can I choose to do something else with that unit, e.g. aim and shoot.

Don’t quote me but I thought they said on the last Notorious Scoundrel podcast that you can measure, but you don’t have to activate that unit. But if you actually move the unit leader, then you’re obligated.

The only problem is I can’t find anything in the rules to corroborate that, or even on the Legion rules rulings thread .

I’m curious too, so I’ll keep looking, but to me it looks like the rules are saying once you measure movement, that’s the unit you’re obligated to activate.

Double post, but I think I have it, and this would make Notorious Scoundrels wrong (if I’m remembering what they said correctly).

Page 55 RRG PREMEASURING

Players can measure with the range ruler at any time. Movement tools can be placed against a unit’s leader and adjusted freely only during that unit’s activation.

So that means the unit is considered in its activation if you are measuring its movement with the movement tool in any way. But you can use the range tool any time.

6 minutes ago, JediPartisan said:

Double post, but I think I have it, and this would make Notorious Scoundrels wrong (if I’m remembering what they said correctly).

Page 55 RRG PREMEASURING

Players can measure with the range ruler at any time. Movement tools can be placed against a unit’s leader and adjusted freely only during that unit’s activation.

So that means the unit is considered in its activation if you are measuring its movement with the movement tool in any way. But you can use the range tool any time.

Ok, the unit is activated: can I decide to do something else with that very same unit? E.g. I activate stormtroopers and I decide to move the unit behind a barricade: I place the movement tool but unfortunately the barricade seems to be too far away but I haven't moved my unit leader yet; can I decide not to move and do something else with that unit that I have activated or do I have to move?

30 minutes ago, Rogue Three said:

Ok, the unit is activated: can I decide to do something else with that very same unit? E.g. I activate stormtroopers and I decide to move the unit behind a barricade: I place the movement tool but unfortunately the barricade seems to be too far away but I haven't moved my unit leader yet; can I decide not to move and do something else with that unit that I have activated or do I have to move?

Ooh. Good question. Maybe this is what the Scoundrel were getting at (boy I have to pay better attention)?

It looks like, if a unit has activated you can measure using the movement tool for that unit as much as you like, and as long as you don’t actually move the minis, you can take other actions. Theoretically you could, Aim, Shoot, then use the movement tool to measure even though you don’t have actions left as long as the unit’s activation hasn’t ended with the flip of its token. At least that’s how I read it.

Edit: Just checked, and this was what Notorious Scoundrels were talking about and they were totally correct all along (dam, I really do need to pay better attention - sorry guys). It was Episode 47, and they talk about this at about time index 20:35.

2 hours ago, Rogue Three said:

Ok, the unit is activated: can I decide to do something else with that very same unit? E.g. I activate stormtroopers and I decide to move the unit behind a barricade: I place the movement tool but unfortunately the barricade seems to be too far away but I haven't moved my unit leader yet; can I decide not to move and do something else with that unit that I have activated or do I have to move?

Spose the question then becomes what happens if you declared the move action 1st?

It's going to become a heated debate when clone wars drop and droidekas are forced to ai.....(they have to move or shoot, and also mean deciding or roller form or not)

4 hours ago, Rogue Three said:

Ok we got that, but the question is: if I place the movement tool at the base of the mini MUST I move OR can I choose to do something else with that unit, e.g. aim and shoot.

No, you don't have to move it unless you pick the model up off the table. Once you pick the unit leader up you're committed to the move. Before that, you can measure with the movement tool, realize the move isn't what you hoped for, and dodge/standby instead, for example.

3 hours ago, Rogue Three said:

Ok, the unit is activated: can I decide to do something else with that very same unit? E.g. I activate stormtroopers and I decide to move the unit behind a barricade: I place the movement tool but unfortunately the barricade seems to be too far away but I haven't moved my unit leader yet; can I decide not to move and do something else with that unit that I have activated or do I have to move?

If the unit is activated the wording is that you can measure using the movement guide and then not move it at all, and choose to shoot. What you cannot do is do this at any time outside the activation for any unit