1 hour ago, Mangod said:

This is turning into a harem manga. Daisetsu is the main char, Shahai is the main love interest, Mitsu is the harem nanny, Dairu is the unlucky childhood friend - all we're missing is an exotic foreigner, a stoic no-nonsense Samurai-ko and a hard-drinking party girl to complete the common roster.

Or is Shahai the main character? With Daisetsu, Mitsu, Dairu...

Side note. It was pointed out recently that FFG have never used the term samurai-ko. Female samurai are samurai, just like male ones, not some weird special subset of samurai.

35 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

Pump the brakes.

Are you seriously trying to push, yet another, new name on this ship?

I just had to invoke the dark knowledge to get AtoMaki on track with Shaisetsu....

And now this. Come on man!!!!!!

On a more serious note, I'm wondering if FFG isn't setting this up to alter the old story and have Mitsu replace Kokujin as the Shadowlands tainted monk we all remember from the old lore?

I could get down with that.

I'm testing which I like more since I first suggested this as the other alternative and think it may flow better.

As to Mitsh as Kokujin while it does solve the naming issue, I can't see them making that big a departure for the character

40 minutes ago, Schmoozies said:

As to Mitsh as Kokujin while it does solve the naming issue, I can't see them making that big a departure for the character

Well they did gender swap Hotaru...……….I'd say that's a fairly sizeable departure from the old lore.

You've got the 2 future dark fortunes and a tattooed monk of notable power. What happens when Daisetsu has need of help Mitsu won't give willingly and Shahai is asked to see if Meishodo can somehow be used to bring Mitsu under control?

Daisetsu: I need an army to claim what should be mine and restore the failing empire. Mitsu, start tattooing some people with your blood to strengthen my army.

Mitsu: Alas young prince, I seem to have forgotten my pants and I am unable to help you with what you ask.

Daisetsu: Nods towards Shahai, Shahai gets glowy eyes and murmurs something as she holds a mysterious talisman. Mitsu, too slow to react, is struck with a blast of energy, his eyes go white

Mitsu: So I'm thinking about opening up my own tattoo shoppe, you know anyone that would be interested in some free work, just to get my name out there?

Must say Bravo to Togashi (ahem...) Yokuni for being spot on target. He gets the folks he needs right at the place he needs at the exact time they are needed. Sending those folks months in advance.

He knows probably that one prince will become Fu Leng, he just doesn't know yet which one. Probably saw the upcoming next Day of Thunders...

Did he knew the Emperor would fall that day precisely...?

Since when has he known?

How many moves has he prepared?

Great story to announce A Champion's Foresight.

It's not Daisetsu who will be jealous of Mitsu but Shahai. If Daisetsu warms up to Mitsu as a mentor, she might get jealous and conspire.

Pray to the kami, brothers and sisters, because we may be attempting a coup whether we are or not. We really need to find Toturi now, because he at least knows we weren't the ones who attacked him.

In all honesty though it was only Kuni Yori who was shown in the current lore that was really involved in using Shadowlands stuffs.

The rest inside the empire can all still be considered untainted at the moment and Shadowlands can remain mindless for as long as FFG needs to develop the plot of the current inter empire conflicts.

*The Yogo curse takes a while to bear fruit*

On ‎8‎/‎28‎/‎2019 at 1:05 AM, shineyorkboy said:

I'm rather surprised Kachiko asked Sumiko to become acting Emerald Champion so soon. Not only is the Dragon outside her influence but moving so quickly makes it rather obvious she was prepared for Toturi to go missing and isn't expecting him to return.

Maybe one of her backup plans is to make out that it's a Dragon Clan coup and they killed the Emperor?

I don't think this is heading towards Dragon Clan Coup. Everyone knows that Yokuni works in mysterious ways and it hasn't been ever suggested that it was the Scorpion style of mysterious ways. It's too easy to chalk it up to "Yokuni being Yokuni" and thank the heaven's that the Dragon were here during this desperate time. With the Ruby Champ and an prominent courtier already there, to help keep things civil, I'm sure they would simply stand down if things got too heated.

Of course this doesn't prevent someone like Kachiko from trying to plant the seeds of doubt within the other clans and try to undermine the actions of the Dragon, by making it seem to everyone else that the Dragon are up to no good. I just don't see Kachiko being able to pull this off quickly enough to take advantage of the rapidly change of circumstances. She is pretty much "wingin it"

I don't see Hitomi as one who is just going to go along as a puppet to a coup attempt because "Yokuni said help the prince so that's what I'll do even if it seems like someone is trying to play us as fools here"

If anything I think this just made things worse for Kachiko. She was planning on putting Sumiko into the Emerald Champion seat, but, being able to control the Emerald Armies via Sotorii………….Kachiko couldn't have anticipated that Sumiko would be able to come up with an army that is not going to be manipulated.

Kachiko better hope that Toturi and Kaede have already escaped, because if the Dragon find them instead of the Imperials, now under Scorpion control, it's not going to be good for her.

In the end Shoju is going to figure this out. Why else would he be taking a big deuce on the throne in that new art of his?

Let's not forget that the Dragon Winter Court choice was 'which family will make up the Army of the Rising Wave?" and the answer was: Kitsuki.

A murder has been committed, a conspiracy is afoot, and an entire precinct of out-of-town cops just rolled into the city and got deputized.

22 minutes ago, Doji Hyōkin said:

Let's not forget that the Dragon Winter Court choice was 'which family will make up the Army of the Rising Wave?" and the answer was: Kitsuki.

A murder has been committed, a conspiracy is afoot, and an entire precinct of out-of-town cops just rolled into the city and got deputized.

Kachiko: "*Phew* Ok, I think I've gotten away with th-"

*Literally the entire Kitsuki family marches into the Imperial Palace and begins dusting for fingerprints*

Kachiko: "-is is going to hurt."

Just to clarify, the Winter Court choice wasn't "which family would make up the Army of the Rising Wave". It was "what kind of samurai will directly respond to what Yokuni has foreseen?" The option selected was:

• If selected, a samurai of the Kitsuki Family investigates the intrigues of the Forbidden City.

It's just a single samurai who will be investigating...at this point it seems likely to be Yaruma, since he's already on the case.

Nah this is a job for Kitsuki Steve

I can't be the only one to have noticed he wears a green shirt while solving mysteries with Blue.

3 hours ago, Ishi Tonu said:

Nah this is a job for Kitsuki Steve

I can't be the only one to have noticed he wears a green shirt while solving mysteries with Blue.

...but those red briefs...i smell a shinobi.

Oh, Dragon... raising being pointlessly cryptic to an art form.

"Aid the prince."

Which prince?

"Yes."

And now the Dragon have forces in place to help them both. Seems the Dragon have a thing or two to teach the Scorpion about hedging your bets.

Is that true that everyone would understand Yokuni is a cryptic weirdo? I mean he never comes down off that mountain. How much do the other clans actually know about him?

It's entirely possible that all they DO know about him is that he's a cryptic weirdo... no offense.

I don't know. Maybe. I guess that depends on how his reputation propagates. Does he take alot of out of clan visitors up there? Probably not. So I think it really comes down to how his clan represents him to outsiders.

If FFG is keeping the old lore in tact and Yokuni is the original Togashi Kami, and a fricken dragon, then "Yokuni said so" is a perfectly reasonable answer to just about anything.

If this is not the case, and Yokuni is just some guy, or it's simply not known by anyone that Yokuni is the original Togashi Kami, then I could see people being skeptical of Yokuni's prophecies.

3 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

If FFG is keeping the old lore in tact and Yokuni is the original Togashi Kami, and a fricken dragon, then "Yokuni said so" is a perfectly reasonable answer to just about anything.

If this is not the case, and Yokuni is just some guy, or it's simply not known by anyone that Yokuni is the original Togashi Kami, then I could see people being skeptical of Yokuni's prophecies.

The issue is that no one except the Togashi order and the Scorpion knew that Yokuni was the original Togashi (especially since he had mastered a type of body hopping that let him put his soul into the body of a different Togashi monk when he was nearing the end of his life so that he could remain on the mortal plain).

For most clans they are aware that Yokuni is the Champion, however they have little to no interaction with him as the day to day management of the clan has been left to the Mirumoto and Kitsuki for the most part. What they will have experience with is the tendancy of the Dragon to just show up at the right time, and how Togashi monks that do come down from the mountains display unusual powers and are prone to speaking in riddles.

28 minutes ago, Schmoozies said:

The issue is that no one except the Togashi order and the Scorpion knew that Yokuni was the original Togashi (especially since he had mastered a type of body hopping that let him put his soul into the body of a different Togashi monk when he was nearing the end of his life so that he could remain on the mortal plain).

For most clans they are aware that Yokuni is the Champion, however they have little to no interaction with him as the day to day management of the clan has been left to the Mirumoto and Kitsuki for the most part. What they will have experience with is the tendancy of the Dragon to just show up at the right time, and how Togashi monks that do come down from the mountains display unusual powers and are prone to speaking in riddles.

So does he take on a new name when he soul hops? Or has the Dragon Clan Champ been named Togashi Yokuni for over 1000 years? Cuz that might be a little suspicious.

2 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

So does he take on a new name when he soul hops? Or has the Dragon Clan Champ been named Togashi Yokuni for over 1000 years? Cuz that might be a little suspicious.

He takes on the identity of the body that he hopped into. He is actually replacing the soul of another monk every time he does it (incidentally one of the many **** moves that Togashi used to do over the years #theSCCwasYokunisfault)

Old lore Mitsu and Kokujin were both candidates to be his new host and in order to better prepare himself for the Second Day of Thunder he messed with the usual process and essentially separated out his negative qualities and dumped them into Kokujin and drove him mad in the process.

To be fair though, wasn't the whole body jumping thing just a bad retcon made to the lore in classic AEG form? FFG can easily go an entirely different route this time around, if they want.

as far as the "Because Yokuni said so" reasoning, we do have these lines from "Between the Lines":

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Now he smiled. “I imagine, Ikoma-sama, that you have heard tales of the foresight Tengoku has seen fit to bestow upon our clan champions.” Everyone knew the tales. The Dragon relied heavily on them, because that sometimes made it possible for them to get away with actions that would have brought repercussions down on the head of any other clan. Who wanted to say they went against the will of Tengoku?

19 hours ago, Schmoozies said:

The issue is that no one except the Togashi order and the Scorpion knew that Yokuni was the original Togashi (especially since he had mastered a type of body hopping that let him put his soul into the body of a different Togashi monk when he was nearing the end of his life so that he could remain on the mortal plain).

For most clans they are aware that Yokuni is the Champion, however they have little to no interaction with him as the day to day management of the clan has been left to the Mirumoto and Kitsuki for the most part. What they will have experience with is the tendancy of the Dragon to just show up at the right time, and how Togashi monks that do come down from the mountains display unusual powers and are prone to speaking in riddles.

Heck, if you read some bits in Emerald Empire, you get the impression that they rely on the Tonbo somewhat more than last time round. For example, the City of the Rich Frog has a Dragonfly governor and garrison for one of its parts, because the Dragon spend all their time at a shrine just down river and just let Tonbo Kama get on with it.

"Two people, both in sandals, and one of them expensively perfumed. Shinobi wouldn’t wear such scents and would have had horses waiting in a nearby wood."

Wow, wow, wow Mitsu

Be gentle with the "S" word

1 hour ago, Daigotsu Arashi said:

"Two people, both in sandals, and one of them expensively perfumed. Shinobi wouldn’t wear such scents and would have had horses waiting in a nearby wood."

Wow, wow, wow Mitsu

Be gentle with the "S" word

Less to worry about in your own internal thoughts.