Hey ppl

Have been flying allot of 5 Tie Sf Omega Squadron Experts with Fanatical and Adv Optics.

Its fun but i would like to get some more dice when it comes to firepower.

So i tought, first of, Lets ad the Dubbeltapp Ace Quickdraw, With Gunner and Fanatical , Fcs and Adv Optics

Pair her with two Tie sfs Omegas , with gunners for the 3 dice attack, ( or dubbeltapp) Fanatical and Adv Optics (50 points each)

and adding a 40 point monster, Scorch, Fanatical and Advandce Optics.

What do u think?

So 4 ships and 3 dice guns , with the potential for a dubbeltapp with Qd.

sure its 1 less ship if u compare it to the 5 Tie sfs, but 4 can still do allot of damadge.

I’ve playtested this squad, and this is the best version I’ve found:

(45) "Quickdraw" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(6) Afterburners
(2) Fire-Control System
(1) Crack Shot
(5) Pattern Analyzer
Points: 69

(32) Zeta Squadron Survivor [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 46

(32) Zeta Squadron Survivor [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 46

(34) "Scorch" [TIE/fo Fighter]
(1) Crack Shot
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 39

Total points: 200

I’ve played a few games with variants of this list. I’ve not been super successful with it, but I still see promise in it.

(45) "Quickdraw" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 57

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 51

(34) "Scorch" [TIE/fo Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
Points: 36

(28) Lieutenant Rivas [TIE/fo Fighter]
Points: 28

(26) Epsilon Squadron Cadet [TIE/fo Fighter]
Points: 26

Total points: 198

8 hours ago, IgotTargetlocked said:

Hey ppl

Have been flying allot of 5 Tie Sf Omega Squadron Experts with Fanatical and Adv Optics.

Its fun but i would like to get some more dice when it comes to firepower.

So i tought, first of, Lets ad the Dubbeltapp Ace Quickdraw, With Gunner and Fanatical , Fcs and Adv Optics

Pair her with two Tie sfs Omegas , with gunners for the 3 dice attack, ( or dubbeltapp) Fanatical and Adv Optics (50 points each)

and adding a 40 point monster, Scorch, Fanatical and Advandce Optics.

What do u think?

So 4 ships and 3 dice guns , with the potential for a dubbeltapp with Qd.

sure its 1 less ship if u compare it to the 5 Tie sfs, but 4 can still do allot of damadge.

All solid ships, no bad upgrades. Should do at least respectable.

I tend to feel like almost any First Order list is going to be decent-enough. In terms of major tournament results, First Order haven't been winning a lot--maybe First Order are too fair to win it all.

With the original list, my only quibble is FCS and Optics on Quickdraw. One relies on taking Focus actions, the other relies on taking Lock actions. I'd cut at least one.

And I have to, as well. When I add up the list QD (Fanatical, FCS, Gunner, Optics), 2x Omega (Fan, Gunner, Optics) and Scorch (Fan, Optics), I get 203 points. I'd cut Optics from Quickdraw.

Following @RelativeShoe 's lead also probably works, downgrading the generic SFs to Zetas for more toys on QD. Again, I think it's hard to go truly wrong with First Order.

2 hours ago, Pewpewpew BOOM said:

I’ve played a few games with variants of this list. I’ve not been super successful with it, but I still see promise in it.

(45) "Quickdraw" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 57

(39) "Backdraft" [TIE/sf Fighter]
(10) Special Forces Gunner
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 51

(34) "Scorch" [TIE/fo Fighter]
(2) Fanatical
Points: 36

(28) Lieutenant Rivas [TIE/fo Fighter]
Points: 28

(26) Epsilon Squadron Cadet [TIE/fo Fighter]
Points: 26

Total points: 198

If it's me, I probably cut Special Forces Gunner from Backdraft to add stuff like Fanatical or Crack Shot to Quickdraw and Backdraft, maybe also swap Backdraft's FCS for an Advanced Optics. Maybe not Optics over FCS on Backdraft, though. Rivas likes having multiple ships who want to take Locks instead of Focus, so sticking with FCS might work in the list.

I dig the 5-ship style. I generally prefer the TIE/sf to the TIE/fo, but FO are decent.

Its a good, solid list, just doesnt do anything remarkable. No force, no tricks like Torkhil, etc. Similar to quad T70s, but slightly worse without heroic saving your putrid 2 green blankouts.

Perhaps drop the adv optics and get midnight. He can be a menace to ace lists and will survive as long as scorch vs any swarm list.

ive flown it once vs one of my best ace player friends.

It was a fun and close game,. He flew Tali, Lulu, Poe and finn. Finn never dies if he has 2 focuses... I lernd that the hard way, When the game was over i lernd 2 things

game ended with FInn at 1 hull, Poe on 2 and a Dead Lulu and Tali.

Scorch died due to me flying him straight into Poe And finn. The Omegas nuked Lulu out in 2 turns. Tali died from some range 2 shoots, from Qd and the Omegas.

Quickdraw i almost gave away , also flew her into the center, were she got taken out by tali , finn and poe, My opponent had the bid so.

All in all a fun game

so here goes.

1

The special forces gunner on the omegas are expensive. Therefore im removing the Adv Optics and Gunner upgrade. To give them Concussion missiles and Passive sensors instead. Now they can fire 3 dice out the front or back.

2

Quickdraw needs more tools to be more of a ace. So she gets Afterburners, So she can escape tricky situations or move in closer for a kill

And for a bonus

3

"Repeat after myself, Scorch is best used as an irritating flanker , not as the center of attention in a killbox"

So the list looks like this now

“Quickdraw” — TIE/SF Fighter 45

Fanatical 2

Special Forces Gunner 10

Fire-Control System 2

Afterburners 6

Ship Total: 65

Half Points: 33 Threshold: 3

“Scorch” — TIE/FO Fighter 34

Fanatical 2

Advanced Optics 4

Ship Total: 40

Half Points: 20 Threshold: 2

Omega Squadron Expert — TIE/SF Fighter 34

Fanatical 2

Concussion Missiles 6

Passive Sensors 3

Ship Total: 45

Half Points: 23 Threshold: 3

Omega Squadron Expert — TIE/SF Fighter 34

Fanatical 2

Concussion Missiles 6

Passive Sensors 3

Ship Total: 45

Half Points: 23 Threshold: 3

and now i have a 5 point bid, So Qd can flank , and if face Rbl beef , wich mainly has I4, Even scorch gets to be arc-dodgy

what do u think?