2 hours ago, R3dReVenge said:

I think the red flag is they originally had plans and then scrapped them for CW.

I thought we would see FO/Resistance in 2 years. But I suspect we may never get it unless their is a huge demand for it (currently their isn't one).

I wouldn't say never, it's impossible to know what ffgs plans may be two-three years from now. The news that they aren't currently developing FO/Resistance does mean it's probably 2+ years off though given the time it takes to develop and playtest things.

I think it is smart of them to focus on building up one era at a time before kind of jumping all in. It worked for xwing because the game was firmly established and it was a good time to introduce the resistance and first order ahead of the start of thr new trilogy. I can't see sequel factions not being added especially if rise of the Skywalker is a homerun and the resistance cartoon does as well as the Rebels cartoon.

Well considering the Resistance show is ending with season 2, there's a limited amount of content the show can add. After that season ends though and Rise of Skywalker is out we'll see though, maybe the combination of those two plus any books in that era will be enough.

Completely agree though, round out the clone wars factions before starting new ones, and I'm glad to see it sounds like that's the direction ffg is going.

If the game lasts long enough we’ll see minis for pretty much anything that appears in a feature length film.

Hence I hope that they can make ST factions once the announced CW factions are big enough to walk.

I do think Clone Wars will dominate the releases for awhile once it’s rolling.

The trolls just could not read or they are intentionally undermining FF trying to cause them to go out of business. the title said "what if". It does not matter if they do put them in or they dont. currently, you CAN have a FO force by pretending empire units are FO and dont have special rules such as indoctrinated or whatever and all of the characters are off somewhere else doing something else.

FF may or may not put them in at some future date. To the discussion here, it simply does not matter as we are wishlisting and spitballing ideas. If even one person maintains interest in the game or is able to put any of the ideas to use (even in homebrew rules or in setting up special games at home, it is worthwhile and productive to the community as a whole. That is why we encourage these discussions on the forums. Minus the trolls of course. lol

On 8/22/2019 at 8:21 AM, AldousSnow said:

1. Do I want Sequel Trilogy factions? The answer is yes. Yes I do. Very much.

2. Do I think there is enough content to flesh out 2 whole factions (after episode 9)? Yes. Yes I do.

3. Am I confused by the ambiguity of the question "will it be next?"? Yes. I am confused.

If you mean will the Sequel Trilogy be the next major release? Then absolutely it will be. What else is there? I've given up on the concept of a neutral or scum/villainy faction. So yes First Order and Resistance will be next. When? Who knows. A year? 2 years?

If by next, you mean next year or the next cycle, or next wave? Then no. No they won't be next.

The big question is 'sub factions'. We 100% know they're coming, but have 0% information on what they are. All I have is guesses. And I'm not convinced that any guess is fool proof. They could release those neutral or scum units in a sub faction. Or faction adjacent groups like Ewoks or Gungans as sub factions. Or the First Order and Resistance could be sub factions. I hope not. I'd want to see them as fully functional factions. But we don't know. I am curious to find out though.

Only the dark side talks in absolutes...

From what I understand, the ST is absolutely not the next release so thank goodness your absolute was based on fictional midichlorians or the force energy binding us all.

Many here and in other threads believe fo/resistance may never happen...I predict 6.5 years but then again, I may not even be alive which may make some uncharitable forum contributors quite happy😂

I appreciate your prediction however the emporer has no clothes until we all see episode 9 perhaps.

19 hours ago, EVIL INC said:

the title said "what if". It does not matter if they do put them in or they dont.... To the discussion here, it simply does not matter as we are wishlisting and spitballing ideas.

In that case here's my pretend First Order vs. Resistance starter box.

Resistance:

• Leia Commander. Her stats would be entirely re-written to reflect it being 30 years later.
• Resistance Soldiers. These guys would be basically Fleet Trooper stats, not Rebel Trooper stats, so the starter battles don't feel too much like de ja vu all over again. But they'd have totally new heavies.
• A (if necessary re-canonized) AT-PT, left over from the Republic days. I liked this trope with the AT-RT and I like AT-PT's. Refurbished E-Web is also in my consideration.

First Order:

• Kylo Ren Commander. Thus the Skywalker commanders of the core's make a grid: in this set, the older generation is the light side and the younger, the dark.
• First Order Troopers. Yup, stormtrooper stats and new heavies.
• Something... um... supporty. I honestly can't think of any smallish cannons or jetbikes or anything these guys used in the movies. So. Yeah. Maybe the next movie will have some. Or maybe I missed something small enough.

2 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

Something... um... supporty. I honestly can't think of any smallish cannons or jetbikes or anything these guys used in the movies. So. Yeah. Maybe the next movie will have some. Or maybe I missed something small enough.

Cut scene from the movies there is the LIUV speeder, otherwise they have also used AT-RT's and AT-ST's as well as Speeder Bikes in canon books and games.

AT-AT and AT-M6 are too large for the current game scale, of course.

1 hour ago, kris40k said:

Cut scene from the movies there is the LIUV speeder, otherwise they have also used AT-RT's and AT-ST's as well as Speeder Bikes in canon books and games.

AT-AT and AT-M6 are too large for the current game scale, of course.

the Treadspeeder shown in the original post would make a great support for the First Order

Hey there, bringing this thread back.

Currently working on a homebrew First Order and would love some help and collaboration from the community! Just looking to create a "Core Set" for the FO for now.

I have already started to photoshop them and think they look pretty good so far! Just would love some help with keywords, command cards, etc!

Any takers?

I think the first order (being a resurrection of the empire), has a lot of good units to start with; characters like Ren, Hux, and Phasma as well as those characters and soldiers added in Resistance are a great base line to include them.

the real problem would be resistance; we just haven’t seen enough of their forces on the ground to really say they have enough to justify being on the table really.

5 hours ago, Uchidan1 said:

Hey there, bringing this thread back.

Currently working on a homebrew First Order and would love some help and collaboration from the community! Just looking to create a "Core Set" for the FO for now.

I have already started to photoshop them and think they look pretty good so far! Just would love some help with keywords, command cards, etc!

Any takers?

I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but will gladly offer up advice where possible. Most of my musings have probably been posted in this thread already.

1 hour ago, joewrightgm said:

I think the first order (being a resurrection of the empire), has a lot of good units to start with; characters like Ren, Hux, and Phasma as well as those characters and soldiers added in Resistance are a great base line to include them.

the real problem would be resistance; we just haven’t seen enough of their forces on the ground to really say they have enough to justify being on the table really.

The resistance isn't really a problem though, if you look at it a different way. I have mentioned this earlier, but I'm working on a GI Joe conversion, and one design element I decided on fits well for the resistance. In GI Joe, you have a number of highly trained individuals, but some are leaders. Now you could certainly make a case for just using the joes as sculpts for the corps units as is - just every individual unit in the “squad” would have a unique sculpt. While this works, it doesn't let you field the heroes the way you want and themed to the show.

To fit GI Joe thematically, I decided to build most characters as an individual corps unit - effectively a mini-operative. So while characters such as Snake-Eyes will warrant being an actual operative, a character such as Shipwreck or Gung-Ho might not.
Having a squad of 4-6 units being the mail away steel brigade as a corps unit also works to make it different.

Taking and approach like that for the resistance could work very well. Characters such as Poe become a leader (that is his characters journey, to become a leader). But Finn would work well as a corps unit. But as the steel brigade above, you can have a generic trooper squad corp unit as well.

This allows the Resistance to be built in individuals that work together (similar to The GI Joe team) against a larger foe. Also, a design like this fits the theme of the resistance - everyone being important to the cause, and individuals making a difference.

A nice side effect to this design is that it allows the faction to play VERY differently to the other factions.

As much as the idea of building the resistance like that excites me, doing GI Joe has a bigger draw - I can do digital sculpts, I have hundreds of characters to choose from, plus I get to design the forces of COBRA!

SO

As I have it right now for the FO Stormtroopers.

First Order Stormtrooper (4) - Health 1 - Courage 1 - Red Defense - No Surge - Points: 50

F-11D Blaster Rifle: 2 White - Unarmed: 1 Black - Keywords: Disciplined 1

Heavy, Personnel, Training, Gear, Grenades.

On 11/26/2019 at 6:13 AM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

This allows the Resistance to be built in individuals that work together (similar to The GI Joe team) against a larger foe. Also, a design like this fits the theme of the resistance - everyone being important to the cause, and individuals making a difference.

A nice side effect to this design is that it allows the faction to play VERY differently to the other factions.

All this right here!!! I thought up something similar for Resistance since their whole thing is a smaller force, but everyone is a hero. Both Inferno & Black squadron did ground work and the faction has a crap ton of named people they could use. Rise of Skywalker also looks like it should fill out both factions. Resistance have their tauntan unit at least lol.

The real question is what comes first ST or Scum? So far Legion has been super consistent in repeating units and release order and Scum would throw that off. On the other hand, Scum has a lot to work with.

We should find out at GenCon at what the future holds for the game. Especially since Clone Wars seems to have destoryed everything at FFG.

Saw this posted today

https://starwarslegionnews.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/fan-made-first-order-core-set/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

16 minutes ago, HelHound said:

Saw this posted today

https://starwarslegionnews.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/fan-made-first-order-core-set/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

This is awesome.

I can see that the person(s) who made this probably spent a mot of time in these forums. I would go nuts for FFG to do smaller army starters/skirmish starters with a single faction like this.

I would say that the bases would look good with a crimson colour over black. I also wish the stls for the miniatures were provided with the download.

1 hour ago, HelHound said:

Saw this posted today

https://starwarslegionnews.wordpress.com/2019/11/28/fan-made-first-order-core-set/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

It's pretty awesome, but there is no way Kylo Ren wouldn't be a commander. Also, if First Order Stormtroopers are 12 points each, why is the unit 50 points?

Those command cards are pretty dang cool, though.

27 minutes ago, Lochlan said:

It's pretty awesome, but there is no way Kylo Ren wouldn't be a commander. Also, if First Order Stormtroopers are 12 points each, why is the unit 50 points?

Those command cards are pretty dang cool, though.

Yea I thought the same thing kylo would definitely be a commander not an operative

On 9/2/2019 at 3:22 PM, TauntaunScout said:

Resistance:

• Leia Commander. Her stats would be entirely re-written to reflect it being 30 years later.
• Resistance Soldiers. These guys would be basically Fleet Trooper stats, not Rebel Trooper stats, so the starter battles don't feel too much like de ja vu all over again. But they'd have totally new heavies.
• A (if necessary re-canonized) AT-PT, left over from the Republic days. I liked this trope with the AT-RT and I like AT-PT's. Refurbished E-Web is also in my consideration.

Calvary Unit

8 hours ago, Lochlan said:

It's pretty awesome, but there is no way Kylo Ren wouldn't be a commander. Also, if First Order Stormtroopers are 12 points each, why is the unit 50 points?

Those command cards are pretty dang cool, though.

I came here to post this exact link. I am glad you guys think this is cool!

Also, to clear things up this Kylo is Force Awaken's Kylo Ren...I would think that Supreme Leader Kylo would be a commander, which is why I made him an Operative in this set.

I didn't know the rule of 4x whatever the number is. I am going to fix that. FO Stormstroopers are 48 now.

https://cleverclanker.video.blog/2019/11/28/rise-of-the-first-order/

Very cool!

Kylo Ren is very well designed. I like how he only gains mastery of the force from a command card instead of having it all the time.

What about this for the FO Stormtrooper keyword, it works well with Compel on Phasma:

Programmed since birth: After this unit performs their rally step, they may spend 1 suppression token to gain 1 aim or surge token.

15 hours ago, Cleto0 said:

What about this for the FO Stormtrooper keyword, it works well with Compel on Phasma:

Programmed since birth: After this unit performs their rally step, they may spend 1 suppression token to gain 1 aim or surge token.

So they can just freely remove a suppression token to get an aim or surge?

27 minutes ago, lunitic501 said:

So they can just freely remove a suppression token to get an aim or surge?

That's what he said. It would be preposterously good. Even if they were just Stormtroopers without Precise but with that ability, they would probably be 2-3 points more per model.