On 8/19/2019 at 5:44 PM, XPav said:

Hrmmm..

Gonk Droid or Chancellor Palpatine.... (in R2-D2's likely crew slot)

Or the C-3PO that's in the spread.

On 8/19/2019 at 2:05 PM, FlyingAnchors said:

I think I’m canon it didn’t come with shields so maybe 3/3/6/0 stat line? Or maybe 3/2/6/0. Idk

6 Hull might help with balancing it out to be a bit of a TIE-Defender role, but good gravy would it be unthematic. The Eta-2 is, I think, the smallest of any fighter that will ever appear in X-Wing, it's absolutely miniscule. Couple that with the fact that it has almost no hull compared to other ships (most portions of it look razor-thin), and I just can't see it thematically deserving a Hull value close to that of a Y-Wing or a U-Wing or Reaper or anything.

Thematically, I could see it as a 2HP ship, killable by a single Direct Hit! even. Not sure how such a ridiculously glass cannon could be balanced, but I dunno.

1 hour ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

6 Hull might help with balancing it out to be a bit of a TIE-Defender role, but good gravy would it be unthematic. The Eta-2 is, I think, the smallest of any fighter that will ever appear in X-Wing, it's absolutely miniscule. Couple that with the fact that it has almost no hull compared to other ships (most portions of it look razor-thin), and I just can't see it thematically deserving a Hull value close to that of a Y-Wing or a U-Wing or Reaper or anything.

Thematically, I could see it as a 2HP ship, killable by a single Direct Hit! even. Not sure how such a ridiculously glass cannon could be balanced, but I dunno.

Well it is ridiculously durable, although how much of that is plot armor is for you to decide. Obi-Wan had buzz droids on him and wreck his ship but it was still flyable to the hanger, and Anakin had several seconds before the crits became worrisome in the clone wars.

Although you do make an excellent point about 6 Hull being a little much, maybe it should be like the tie silencer bar shields, and have 4 Hull. (I mean the Naboo starfighter is really small and still has 3 Hull).

30 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

Well it is ridiculously durable, although how much of that is plot armor is for you to decide. Obi-Wan had buzz droids on him and wreck his ship but it was still flyable to the hanger, and Anakin had several seconds before the crits became worrisome in the clone wars.

Although you do make an excellent point about 6 Hull being a little much, maybe it should be like the tie silencer bar shields, and have 4 Hull. (I mean the Naboo starfighter is really small and still has 3 Hull).

The Actis 2 takes up less space than an N-1 with its tail and engines chopped off...

The thing to bear in mind is that the ships with by far the least hull are TIE fighters. The actis is at least pressurised...

I'd see it with 3 hull 1 shield 3 agil 3 attack probably. Republic already has an a wing. It's just stupidly overpriced.

The Eta is also ~70% of the length of the Delta.

That will be a TINY model at the same scale.

20 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

The thing to bear in mind is that the ships with by far the least hull are TIE fighters. The actis is at least pressurised...

TIE Fighers are actually pretty large, hefty fighters, relatively speaking.

And the cockpits are certainly pressurized, it's old EU nonsense that they were not pressurized and were exposed to space (that or otherwise Poe, Finn, and the cast of Rebels would have died several times over from flying TIEs without flight suits). Though, it's an interesting question as to whether a pressurized hull would be more or less prone to catastrophic failure when damaged...

30 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

TIE Fighers are actually pretty large, hefty fighters, relatively speaking.

And the cockpits are certainly pressurized, it's old EU nonsense that they were not pressurized and were exposed to space (that or otherwise Poe, Finn, and the cast of Rebels would have died several times over from flying TIEs without flight suits). Though, it's an interesting question as to whether a pressurized hull would be more or less prone to catastrophic failure when damaged...

More prone. Only thing keeping the atmosphere in is the hull, and a couple good cracks in the hull will cause it to errupt/blow out. Like a tire or over inflated ball.

44 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

TIE Fighers are actually pretty large, hefty fighters, relatively speaking.

And the cockpits are certainly pressurized, it's old EU nonsense that they were not pressurized and were exposed to space (that or otherwise Poe, Finn, and the cast of Rebels would have died several times over from flying TIEs without flight suits). Though, it's an interesting question as to whether a pressurized hull would be more or less prone to catastrophic failure when damaged...

To be more precise, it's old EU "nonsense" based on perfectly reasonable conclusions drawn from their depictions in the films, and which has since been retconned `in newer media.

(Though, I would point out that what applies to a TIE/fo doesn't necessarily apply to a TIE/ln, anyway.)

9 hours ago, JJ48 said:

To be more precise, it's old EU "nonsense" based on perfectly reasonable conclusions drawn from their depictions in the films...

I mean, there's precisely no evidence that a TIE Fighter's cockpit isn't pressurized except for that the pilots are wearing flight suits, which is just generally good practice should you ever need/want to eject or the hull suffers damage and is an incredibly common practice in both real fighter pilots and most other sci-fiction stuff. Rebel pilots are sort of the odd ducks out in that they fly around in space fighter jets without any sort of flight suit mask, because faces = good guys.

9 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

I mean, there's precisely no evidence that a TIE Fighter's cockpit isn't pressurized except for that the pilots are wearing flight suits,

Neither was there any evidence that they are, at least in the original trilogy. I wasn't saying that it was the only possible conclusion; merely that it was consistent with what we saw. The canon may since have changed so that it's no longer the case, but that doesn't mean it was ridiculous at the time, and it would not even necessarily be obvious to someone who hadn't seen Rebels that the old, EU line of thought no longer held true.

On 8/19/2019 at 3:33 PM, Hiemfire said:

Doubtful since they're riding in the astro slot. They probably have a crew slot instead.

This would make the most sense. It's probably safe to assume normal fleshy pilots will get an upgrade bar either very close the Rebel Y-wing, if not completely identical. R2 is likely to have both crew and gunner instead of gunner and astro.