22 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:This is what I would guess. We have The Manadalorian and Cassian getting their own shows, and it seems like Disney is bailing on "In the Future" Star Wars in favor of "During the Galactic Civil War" Star Wars.
With the upshot being that Imps and Rebels may actually see new ships.
The fo bomber looks cool.
As for the series depending on when it ends in the timeline. Its possible it wont make sense to call it resistance anymore. I mean if they beat the first order maybe it will rebranded adventures of the new republic.
Or maybe it just wasnt popular enough.....
2 hours ago, Freeptop said:Note the full circle engine nacelles on the new version as well. The T-85 shares the half-circle nacelles of the T-70.
Yeah, good catch. Double thrusters though, which is wack!
I don't care much for the first season, but this trailer got me hiped!
Also, NEW SHIPS!!!!! A lot of NEW SHIPS!!!
3 hours ago, Whalers on the moon said:
On a second watch, it appears I missed these guys. Maybe something else in the VCX line? They are shooting at the good guys and also have a cannon on top.
Also, that "gunship" appears to fly alongside Hype in another scene, so am guessing it's a good guy. It's engine glow is blue in that scene so maybe it does have some sort of afterburners/slam.
Probably Death Gang ships.
Same colors.
3 hours ago, Whalers on the moon said:
On a second watch, it appears I missed these guys. Maybe something else in the VCX line? They are shooting at the good guys and also have a cannon on top.
Also, that "gunship" appears to fly alongside Hype in another scene, so am guessing it's a good guy. It's engine glow is blue in that scene so maybe it does have some sort of afterburners/slam.
Probably Death Gang ships.
Same colors.
3 hours ago, Whalers on the moon said:
On a second watch, it appears I missed these guys. Maybe something else in the VCX line? They are shooting at the good guys and also have a cannon on top.
Also, that "gunship" appears to fly alongside Hype in another scene, so am guessing it's a good guy. It's engine glow is blue in that scene so maybe it does have some sort of afterburners/slam.
Probably Death Gang ships.
Same colors.
3 hours ago, Whalers on the moon said:
On a second watch, it appears I missed these guys. Maybe something else in the VCX line? They are shooting at the good guys and also have a cannon on top.
Also, that "gunship" appears to fly alongside Hype in another scene, so am guessing it's a good guy. It's engine glow is blue in that scene so maybe it does have some sort of afterburners/slam.
Probably Death Gang ships.
Same colors.
3 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:This is what I would guess. We have The Manadalorian and Cassian getting their own shows, and it seems like Disney is bailing on "In the Future" Star Wars in favor of "During the Galactic Civil War" Star Wars.
Honestly, I feel like Disney has no one but themselves to blame. All they had to do was pick and choose the best of the EU and keep it and reject the rest (looking at you Vong). Instead, they had the new films. And this show, which while the films have their fans, I have yet to hear any real excitement for.
They rode on nostalgia for the old to sell the new. But the new isn't the old. And without that nostalgia fuel, there isn’t much left....
That said, I’m all on board with new republic and remnant content making its way in to power either the old factions or even the resistance / First Order.
5 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said: Honestly, I feel like Disney has no one but themselves to blame. All they had to do was pick and choose the best of the EU and keep it and reject the rest (looking at you Vong). Instead, they had the new films. And this show, which while the films have their fans, I have yet to hear any real excitement for.
They rode on nostalgia for the old to sell the new. But the new isn't the old. And without that nostalgia fuel, there isn’t much left....
That said, I’m all on board with new republic and remnant content making its way in to power either the old factions or even the resistance / First Order.
The EU was a mess. Fun, but a total mess. The ST era has plenty of excitement from people I know, anecdotal evidence at best obviously. After TFA there was a ton still. The controversy of TLJ (and the internet echo chamber) dampened enthusiasm for sure but I'm at least starting to feel a turn going into TRoS. Hopefully they capture the magic in TRoS to end the ST in an interesting and crowd pleasing way.
12 minutes ago, dsul413 said:Hopefully they capture the magic in TRoS to end the ST in an interesting and crowd pleasing way.
I hope so as well. I really do, because I want more Star Wars content. I’m not one of the guys on the Internet cheering for the demise of Disney Star Wars out of spite.
I’m also hoping that we get some more interesting content for the later era because I feel it’s something that can be explored further.
5 hours ago, Freeptop said:Note the full circle engine nacelles on the new version as well. The T-85 shares the half-circle nacelles of the T-70.
It just looks like a modded T-65 to me. If Kaz is the pilot, it would make sense as something they put together from scraps on the Colossus like all their other ships.
4 hours ago, dsul413 said:The EU was a mess. Fun, but a total mess.
This has zero impact on XWM, which requires only neat-looking ships and character names.
5 hours ago, dsul413 said:Hopefully they capture the magic in TRoS to end the ST in an interesting and crowd pleasing way.
Personally, I don't hate the ST story, but it's just not my favorite in the Star Wars universe. However, I will say that I find the characters themselves rather interesting and entertaining, which is at least a decent trade.
5 hours ago, JJ48 said:Personally, I don't hate the ST story, but it's just not my favorite in the Star Wars universe. However, I will say that I find the characters themselves rather interesting and entertaining, which is at least a decent trade.
Thing is, Resistance and the Poe Dameron comics help the Sequel Trilogy a lot. Fleshing out that 'cold war' feel where the resistance really is working on a shoestring and underlining Resistance=/=Republic helps to make more sense of it all.
Without knowing how much time has passed between The Last Jedi and The Rise Of Skywalker, I get there being no more series: Rebels started five years before A New Hope, but is Hosnian has happened now, the events of the first two films will happen within a chronological week or so, so there really isn't much you can do without overtaking the films, and once The Rise Of Skywalker has been and gone in universe, one assumes the First Order won't be there to resist anymore.
3 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:Thing is, Resistance and the Poe Dameron comics help the Sequel Trilogy a lot. Fleshing out that 'cold war' feel where the resistance really is working on a shoestring and underlining Resistance=/=Republic helps to make more sense of it all.
Without knowing how much time has passed between The Last Jedi and The Rise Of Skywalker, I get there being no more series: Rebels started five years before A New Hope, but is Hosnian has happened now, the events of the first two films will happen within a chronological week or so, so there really isn't much you can do without overtaking the films, and once The Rise Of Skywalker has been and gone in universe, one assumes the First Order won't be there to resist anymore.
I wish they'd take a page from the X-Wing novels and show us the struggles as the Rebellion tries to shift from striking against a corrupt ruler to being the ruler.
1 minute ago, JJ48 said:I wish they'd take a page from the X-Wing novels and show us the struggles as the Rebellion tries to shift from striking against a corrupt ruler to being the ruler.
Given how thoroughly it seems to have gone wrong, it may prove a relatively depressing story.... but it'd be interesting to fill in the Jakku-to-Mirrin gap of time.
22 minutes ago, JJ48 said:I wish they'd take a page from the X-Wing novels and show us the struggles as the Rebellion tries to shift from striking against a corrupt ruler to being the ruler.
Missed opportunity for sure. Although, they’d have run into challenges film wise, as we would hope they’re not still struggling 30 years after the battle of Endor. That would have made an excellent series though.
Maybe it still can.... just need to recast some of the OT heroes who would logically be there.
27 minutes ago, Magnus Grendel said:Thing is, Resistance and the Poe Dameron comics help the Sequel Trilogy a lot. Fleshing out that 'cold war' feel where the resistance really is working on a shoestring and underlining Resistance=/=Republic helps to make more sense of it all.
That was Disney’s mistake. You cannot make your large screen production dependent on other media to make it work. The big screen is the part most of your base will see.
I still maintain the biggest flaw in TFA was how the Republic is magically erased because one solar system is destroyed.
What *would* have made a good story, with minimal changes to the plot line? The loss of the Hosnian System wakes the rest of the Republic up with an “oh crap” moment. Then we have the republic fleet mobilize and have 2-3 stories in play: the republic fleet engaging the FO in large scale conventional warfare like the big battle from RotS, the resistance behind enemy lines trying to do what good they can to undermine the FO war effort, Rey training to become a Jedi under Luke (actually, not find an old cynic who acts nothing like Luke and gets no real insight).
Man.... this sounds way better than what we got.
Edited by ScummyRebel4 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:Missed opportunity for sure. Although, they’d have run into challenges film wise, as we would hope they’re not still struggling 30 years after the battle of Endor. That would have made an excellent series though.
Maybe it still can.... just need to recast some of the OT heroes who would logically be there.
Yeah, a live-action series would be perfect. Just like the books, I would expect such a series to focus on characters other than the Big Names, so having a bad recast wouldn't screw things up too much.
1 hour ago, ScummyRebel said:That was Disney’s mistake. You cannot make your large screen production dependent on other media to make it work. The big screen is the part most of your base will see.
I agree. I'm simply observing that having seen the extra media, it improves the films.
A big part of the originals, to be fair, was that when The Empire Strikes Back came out, we'd had a not-made-entirely-clear-but-significant amount of time pass (new base on new world, 'Commander Skywalker', a new general, 'the bounty hunter on Ord Mantell' - clearly stuff had happened off-screen, which writers could then retroactively fill in). Starting The Last Jedi what feels like only hours after the end of The Force Awakens is one flaw I can't quite understand.
As an observation - I would like to correct something:
1 hour ago, Magnus Grendel said:it'd be interesting to fill in the Jakku-to-Mirrin gap of time
I'd forgotten - at least the first part of that is supposed to be filled in, in that The Mandalorian is set (as I understand it) post-Jakku. So that's likely to show the New Republic coming into being - albeit from the 'outside' and 'underbelly'...
8 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:This has zero impact on XWM, which requires only neat-looking ships and character names.
Mandalorian takes place 7 years post ROTJ so we may see ships end up on either side of the era divide.
This show ending at what may be the natural conclusion of the ST or at least the show’s storyline isn’t an indicator of Disney backing away from ST material completely.
Edited by dsul41321 hours ago, Bucknife said:Probably Death Gang ships.
Same colors.
There is a Guavian Death Gang trooper in the trailer (which intrigues me!), so there could be something to this hypothesis. Their ship in TFA is just too blurry. But we could get one more criminal syndicate in X-wing's Scum faction!
Addendum: There is a sequel era Hutt as well. So a very remote possibility of seeing some ST Hutt ship.
Edited by Managarmr11 hours ago, Managarmr said:There is a sequel era Hutt as well.
I was thinking about that. I'm not sure that the Hutt's lifecycle is really outlined in new-canon stuff, so part of me is wondering if it might be Stinky, all grown up.
Which would make for an interesting dynamic if the series features any of:
Resistance Trailer: "It’s just like the Empire when I was a kid."
How subtle.
Without having a clue about whether or why they cancel, I'm very optimistic that Resistance and FO will get new content. Guys, this is Disney. They spent literally billions to establish this IP. Look at their whole business model this past half decade. The **** freezes over before they let an established IP whither. They produced a new season for THE CLONE WARS, FFS.
