November 12 release date

First Look at the Starfighters Owners’ Manual

I like the scale comparison chart.

Want.

Lovely Preview on StarWars.com

Nice! I wonder which ships are in the book...

(and I'm very curious with the T-85 entry)

Can't wait for the B-wing one myself.

As for the Y-wing we got a lot of new info on the ship. Faster, sensor slot, better shields, and optional ordnance tubes.

The Millennium Falcon was once printed by them i believe and do hope they bring it back.

11 hours ago, RyantheFett said:

Can't wait for the B-wing one myself.

As for the Y-wing we got a lot of new info on the ship. Faster, sensor slot, better shields, and optional ordnance tubes.

They produced Y-wings with no bomb bay and no torpedo tubes, for what purpose? Why would anyone buy that instead of full-time fighters? Also how in the frick "regulations" prevented them from putting torpedo tubes on fighter-bombers, but not on T-70 X-wings, or RZ-2 A-wings, not to mention the existence of the resistance bomber?

Man, so strange it looks as if someone made it up on the spot to fill the space after noticing episode ix vfx artists couldn't be bothered to put two holes in the model 🤔🤔🤔

7 hours ago, eMeM said:

They produced Y-wings with no bomb bay and no torpedo tubes, for what purpose? Why would anyone buy that instead of full-time fighters? Also how in the frick "regulations" prevented them from putting torpedo tubes on fighter-bombers, but not on T-70 X-wings, or RZ-2 A-wings, not to mention the existence of the resistance bomber?

Man, so strange it looks as if someone made it up on the spot to fill the space after noticing episode ix vfx artists couldn't be bothered to put two holes in the model 🤔🤔🤔

oh good lords

Let's run through this. It's sloppy, but more and more we're seeing warheads getting launched out of blaster cannons. Chances are, they're to be fired from there in the film. OR, and this is a HUGE BIG THINK.

D'YA SEE THE HUGE CUTOUTS NEAR THE GUNS

Chances are there's a tube somewhere around there!

You people will complain about anything! Geez!

1 hour ago, KCDodger said:

oh good lords

Let's run through this. It's sloppy, but more and more we're seeing warheads getting launched out of blaster cannons. Chances are, they're to be fired from there in the film. OR, and this is a HUGE BIG THINK.

D'YA SEE THE HUGE CUTOUTS NEAR THE GUNS

Chances are there's a tube somewhere around there!

You people will complain about anything! Geez!

You people will defend anything, geez. I read an interview on StarWars.com with the author of this book and this is exactly what happened, he got some pictures, saw that there is no tubes and made up this "regulations" bs.

12 hours ago, eMeM said:

They produced Y-wings with no bomb bay and no torpedo tubes, for what purpose? Why would anyone buy that instead of full-time fighters? Also how in the frick "regulations" prevented them from putting torpedo tubes on fighter-bombers, but not on T-70 X-wings, or RZ-2 A-wings, not to mention the existence of the resistance bomber?

Man, so strange it looks as if someone made it up on the spot to fill the space after noticing episode ix vfx artists couldn't be bothered to put two holes in the model 🤔🤔🤔

RZ-2 doesn't have a torpedo launcher, just missiles. Bomber transitioned to civilian applications following the Galactic Concordance. With the corresponding disarmament, the fleet was reduced and a focus was placed on planetary defense craft/fleets, and having seen government red tape with acquisitions IRL it would not surprise me a bit if the New Republic Defense Fleet had a contracted limited number of T-70s/T-85s with torpedo launchers and, because of the agreement, planetary defense forces had to maintain a reduced capability with ships such as this Y-Wing for new acquisitions.

But we don't have enough canon detail to say for sure.

3 hours ago, eMeM said:

You people will defend anything, geez. I read an interview on StarWars.com with the author of this book and this is exactly what happened, he got some pictures, saw that there is no tubes and made up this "regulations" bs.

Yes, I read the article too. Frankly, he may have missed those gaps. We know this thing's gonna fire torpedoes. Did it EVER occur to you that for just a MOMENT, just a moment that you might be wrong, but the movies aren't?

Wild, I know.

5 hours ago, KCDodger said:

Yes, I read the article too. Frankly, he may have missed those gaps. We know this thing's gonna fire torpedoes. Did it EVER occur to you that for just a MOMENT, just a moment that you might be wrong, but the movies aren't?

Wild, I know.

In a very "you" style you are vigorously contending a point I didn't make. I don't think you have read my post.

5 hours ago, dsul413 said:

RZ-2 doesn't have a torpedo launcher, just missiles. Bomber transitioned to civilian applications following the Galactic Concordance. With the corresponding disarmament, the fleet was reduced and a focus was placed on planetary defense craft/fleets, and having seen government red tape with acquisitions IRL it would not surprise me a bit if the New Republic Defense Fleet had a contracted limited number of T-70s/T-85s with torpedo launchers and, because of the agreement, planetary defense forces had to maintain a reduced capability with ships such as this Y-Wing for new acquisitions.

But we don't have enough canon detail to say for sure.

RZ-2 can launch smaller proton torpedoes out of its missile launchers, it's in the preview. Of course we don't have detail because nobody thought about this.

1 hour ago, eMeM said:

smaller proton torpedoes

Or ‘Proton Rockets’, which are a type of missile, perhaps? 😛

11 minutes ago, DexterOnone said:

Or ‘Proton Rockets’, which are a type of missile, perhaps? 😛

Honestly, does it actually matter? I mean, according to the ship schematics visible throughout Star Trek TNG the ship only has one tiny bathroom near the Engineering section. Obviously that wouldn't be enough for a ship the size of the Enterprise. But that detail is handwaved away.

How exactly are missiles and torpedoes reloaded in Star Wars mid-combat without any means of actually doing so? Again, it doesn't actually matter. It just happens.

If you look at the schematics, it points out where the torpedo launch tubes are, and specifically mentions they are optional. And the design obscures where the launch tubes would be, if they are installed. And just for the sake of argument, I took a close look at my T-65 mini, Modified YT-1300 mini, A/SF-01 B Wing mini, and Tie Advanced X1 mini. And the only one of them which has something modeled on it which could be a missile/torpedo tube is the Tie Advanced X1 mini.

2 minutes ago, Faerie1979 said:

How exactly are missiles and torpedoes reloaded in Star Wars mid-combat without any means of actually doing so? Again, it doesn't actually matter. It just happens.

If you look at the schematics, it points out where the torpedo launch tubes are, and specifically mentions they are optional. And the design obscures where the launch tubes would be, if they are installed. And just for the sake of argument, I took a close look at my T-65 mini, Modified YT-1300 mini, A/SF-01 B Wing mini, and Tie Advanced X1 mini. And the only one of them which has something modeled on it which could be a missile/torpedo tube is the Tie Advanced X1 mini.

The ships carry missiles and torpedoes internally, it's not hard to imagine a system feeding ammunition from the magazines to the tubes.

The book states in plain text, black on white, that the "new" Y-wing was designed and mass produced without any means of delivering ordnance, whether it has visible launchers is irrelevant. I brought it up only because that was the reasoning of the author of the book.

It also says it was designed to be customizable, with ordinance tubes being one of those options.

2 hours ago, Faerie1979 said:

It also says it was designed to be customizable, with ordinance tubes being one of those options.

No, it says it's customizable, and that resistance added torpedo launchers. Torpedoes are illegal on this specific ship so I doubt they would offer them as an option in their catalogue.

Oh, the torp launchers are probably in the catalog. But they also would be restricted in sales

1 hour ago, Faerie1979 said:

Oh, the torp launchers are probably in the catalog. But they also would be restricted in sales

They are probably not, considering even the Republic fleet can't use them ("resistance flight crews equipped New Republic Defence Fleet BTL-NR2 Y-wing patrol crafts with ordnance launchers").

So i guess this explains why we don’t see torpedo launchers on the T-85 X-Wing in SW Resistance. Going by that article on the Y-wing, the New Republic prohibited torpedo launchers on their starfighters.

T-85 might be built to be tanky but not punchy it seems.

Makes me wonder if the T-70 having the hardpoints was a legalese way of getting around those regulations. "Oh, no, it doesn't have warhead launchers," but you could install them after manufacture.

And honestly, this would be only one of a bunch of bad military decisions made in NR regulations.

Also, I wonder if the ICTs were outright banned (and if so, what was there on the ICTs that the NR fleet used) or if it was that they were limited to certain power levels.

So, did anyone got the book? Which ships are in it?

I received it, but I'm unfortunately on a work trip. If its not answered in 2 days I'll post it. I don't think my wife would take kindly to a picture request with my kiddos causing headaches.