Hi folks, been thinking of doing a list with 2 Defenders. I've been tinkering around online with the Squad builder, and it looks like it could be fun. Does anyone have any decent builds running two Defenders? Or is the Defender too pricey to run two of?

2x Delta with FCS

Jendon with either Krennic/Tarkin/FCS or Palp

I did well with Delta/Delta/Omicron Group Pilot with Palpatine early in 2e. The all-init-1 aspect of the list makes it really easy to switch up activation order, and coordinate a defender before or after it moves, in order to get into the best positions. There's a few more points to play with now, to get both FCS on the Defenders, and ST-321 on the Shuttle along with Palp.

That said, I think it's more of a "I just want to have fun playing Defenders" list. Like, replacing one Defender with Darth Vader (FCS and Afterburners, cutting ST-321) seems like it'd be stronger than running 2x Defenders. Running Vynder instead of a Defender along side Vader and a Palp Shuttle is probably stronger still. But Defenders are good, plain ships.

2 hours ago, deogg said:

Hi folks, been thinking of doing a list with 2 Defenders. I've been tinkering around online with the Squad builder, and it looks like it could be fun. Does anyone have any decent builds running two Defenders? Or is the Defender too pricey to run two of?

TripleD

(75) Onyx Squadron Ace [TIE/D Defender]
(3) Elusive
Points: 78

(75) Onyx Squadron Ace [TIE/D Defender]
(3) Elusive
Points: 78

(42) "Duchess" [TIE/sk Striker]
Points: 42

Total points: 198

Elusive Onyx's? Interesting. I literally never pull red moves with a Defender, generally feels kinda suicidal. It'd be a surprising and unsettling one to play against, presuming you save the reds for more harmless turns.

2 Delta's plus 1 is a safe pick.

I used to run Rex and Ryad with Outmanoeuvre and Advanced Sensors. It's that much cheaper now, I might be tempted to revisit it.

Edit. 195, which is a nice bid for AS.... or HLC on one. Or Vessery, who didn't fit with Ryad until now. Ryad with AS is super fun...

Meta wise, it can be tough. High ship counts and many alt arcs that shut down Outmanoeuvre and can punish the AS moves. It was good for us back at the start though.

Whisper with Predator

Delta Sqdn x2

197/200

Simple, but effective. If you joust with the Defenders, you give Whisper all the time in the world to flank you. If you chase Whisper, you let the Defenders latch onto you and chew you apart.

For funsies I made this 2x Defender list with just two of them kitted up a little. Don't think it quite has the firepower or staying power to be competitive, but I might bring it to a casual game some night for some fun.

Defender Bros

TIE/D Defender - •Colonel Vessery - 101
•Colonel Vessery - Contemplative Commander (84)
Juke (7)
Collision Detector (6)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)

TIE/D Defender - •Rexler Brath - 95
•Rexler Brath - Onyx Leader (81)
Juke (7)
Fire-Control System (2)
Cluster Missiles (5)

Total: 196/200

View in the X-Wing Squad Builder

Unfortunately they are different pilot skills which really hurts this list. Especially because I'd rather have Vess shoot first, getting his free target lock so that Rex could just spend his instead of trying to just use FCS with it.

But I think it could be a good time if you can pick your battles with them. Bring the largest rocks and force formations to break up. Try not to get ganged on but then cluster missiles will hopefully help on that front.

8 minutes ago, Skeether said:

Defender Bros

I'd been considering trying the 2 Defenders again with Vessery instead of Ryad. Slightly unconvinced, simply because Ryad's immense unpredictability with AS was a big factor in the list doing well before, there is an awful lot of arc dodging to be done.

The big problem we faced was not so much avoiding trouble but doing that AND kicking out damage. Games were often low scoring wars of attrition, which is why we shelved it. It was decent, but had a tendency to be unfun.

This version would be a lot better at dealing pain but would probably suffer more with less of the escapology. May still give it a casual go, but I have a lot of lists on my to-do list already...

Double D.

(84) Colonel Vessery [TIE/D Defender]
(10) Advanced Sensors
(6) Outmaneuver
(4) Heavy Laser Cannon
Points: 104

(81) Rexler Brath [TIE/D Defender]
(2) Fire-Control System
(5) Lone Wolf
(4) Heavy Laser Cannon
Points: 92

Total points: 196

On 8/6/2019 at 10:38 PM, itsJALbert said:

2x Delta with FCS

Jendon with either Krennic/Tarkin/FCS or

How about Cienna Ree for extra maneuvres?

Or double deltas and Cienna on Visir?

You can fit 2 Deltas with FCS and Visir, Cienna, Krennic and extra Hull on 200pts. Or drop Krennic for autoblasters on deltas