Q1. I have a question about the 'limit once per group' location fast triggers in Undimensioned & Unseen. For example, one Dunwich Village location features

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You borrow some hounds to track the creatures by scent. An investigator in Dunwich Village may place 1 of his or her clues on any Abomination enemy in play. (Group limit once per game).

My question is this: If there are two investigators in Dunwich Village, each with 1 clue, can they both place a clue? On the one hand if it was limited to the investigator initiating the fast action then I would have expected it to say that 'You' can place a clue. On the other hand, if any investigator in that location with a clue could do so I would have expected it to say 'Any' can place a clue. Maybe it's just saying that a single investigator can place a clue but it doesn't have to be the investigator who initiates the fast action.

Q2. If the random location for the Brood of Yog Sothoth to move towards is their current location do they stay where they are? I'm guessing that they do.

Q3. I presume it's fine if an investigator acquires a second copy of the same weakness? It just means that they have a really bad case of that weakness! If an investigator with the same two weaknesses draws the second copy while the first is already active what happens?

Q4. I presume 'Smite the Wicked' goes in the discard pile when the enemy it is attached to is defeated?

Q5. I presume that cards like Whippoorwills and Towering Beast stack?

Q6. I presume if required to draw an extra Chaos Token that the modifiers and effects stack? For example the Blood on the Altar broken tablet effect. I also presume you don't return the first token to the bag before drawing the second?

Q7. In Blood on the Altar am I reading Silas's card correctly? He cannot attack you if you move out?

Q8. In Blood on the Altar, in resolution 2 do I gain the 2 VP on Silas's card?

Q9. If the cultist that Mask of Umordhoth becomes attached to is already engaged and is non-unique it is supposed to gain Aloof. Does this have no effect or does the cultist disengage and become aloof?

Not really a question, just interested in what people think... Is Drawing Attention the meanest card in the game? Every Brood moves towards you and Surge!!

Someone will probably correct me (and now @ Assussanni has, so I've struck out my errors and underlined my new comments ) , but here's how we've played it:

Q1) I guess we always read it as "Any investigator at ..." but you are right, that's not what it says, one investigator can place one clue . it is unclear and now I'm curious how others read this (or if it is in a FAQ somewhere) .

Q2) We had them stay put.

Q3) The effects of a second copy of a basic weakness would depend on the weakness, but I would assume both trigger independently. Keep in mind that even if you have a second core, you only play with a set from one core which limits some of them.

Q4) We place Smite the Wicked in the Zoey's discard pile.

Q5) Yes, they stack. Each Whippoorwill results in a skill decrease and each Towering Beast results in a tougher brood (if I'm remembering them correctly).

Q6) This is how we play it, set the token aside, draw a second, add the modifiers and trigger all consequences for all tokens pulled.

Q7) Yes, Silas does not have an attack of Opportunity, so you can spend your actions moving in and out of the Chamber. Not as great when you realize that you will spend two of your three actions moving (of course, pathfinders and upgraded shortcuts can help).

Q8) Resolution R2 does not defeat Silas, so he won't be in the Victory Display. I believe that you defeat Silas, placing him into the Victory Display before you get to Resolution 2 and then pick up the 2 Victory Points when it tells you to gain experience equal to the Victory Points.

Q9) Gaining Aloof just means it won't engage by itself. However, once engaged, it will remain engaged until some other effect explicitly says that it disengages.

Q1) It says “an investigator”, singular, so only one investigator may place a clue, not both. However, it may be any of the investigators at the location.

Q2) Correct, they stay where they are.

Q3) Yes, an investigator can have two copies of Internal Injury, for example. If the second is drawn when the first is in play then they’ll both be in your threat area, and you will take 2 direct damage at the end of your turn if they are still there. Get a friend to help! (They can clear treacheries in your threat area if they are at your location, in this case by spending two of their actions. This isn’t immediately obvious, see the FAQ for more details.)

Q4) Correct, it goes in Zoey’s discard pile.

Q5) The effects stack, yes.

Q6) Correct.

Q7) Correct.

Q8) R2 triggers when you remove all the clues from the Hidden Chamber. Since Silas is not defeated he is not placed in the Victory Display and you do not gain the 2 VPs (but you do get the 2 VPs from the Hidden Chamber).

Q9) Gaining Aloof does not make the enemy disengage.

Drawing Attention can definitely be a nasty Encounter card, but I can think of several worse ones...

Hope that helps!

(Apologies if this post shows up twice. My browser seems to be acting the maggot.)

Thanks Eeyogre and Assussanni all that's pretty much what I thought.

I still have an issue with Q1 though.

Assusssanni, you say that 'an investigator' is singular and that implies that only one investigator can place a clue. The problem for me is that it ignores the context of the rest of the sentence. If I said 'An orangutang escaped from the zoo' then I am talking about a single orangutang. However, if I say something like 'An orangutang with a banana is a happy orangutang', then now I'm making a statement about the class of orangutang's with bananas, and logically it applies to all members of that class.

The statement on the card says 'An investigator in Dunwich may place 1 of his or her clues on any Abomination enemy in play.' Here the class is that of investigators in Dunwich who possess at least one clue.

The rules ref. says:

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When used to describe a condition, the words “a” or “an” are satisfied if one or more of the conditional elements are present.

Here the conditional is that of being 'in Dunwich and having 1 clue', seems to me to imply that any investigator which satisfies the condition can place a clue on an Abomination or am I overlooking something here?

I see your point, but the example from the Rules Reference under “A, An” makes me think that if they had meant for more than one investigator to be able to place a clue they would have written the ability as: “ Each investigator in Dunwich Village may place 1 of his or her clues on any Abomination enemy in play (group limit once per game).”

I don't have the cards with me, but how does this text compare to the text on the other locations in that scenario. Do they clearly indicate whether they apply to one investigator or whether they apply to any qualified investigators? Do any of those cards explicitly say "Any" as opposed to "An"?

7 hours ago, Eeyogre said:

I don't have the cards with me, but how does this text compare to the text on the other locations in that scenario. Do they clearly indicate whether they apply to one investigator or whether they apply to any qualified investigators? Do any of those cards explicitly say "Any" as opposed to "An"?

Yeah, @Assussanni has it correct here. Take a look at Ten-Acre Meadow: https://arkhamdb.com/card/02247 That allows each investigator there to place a clue, rather than an investigator: " You set a bait using a live animal. Each investigator in Ten-Acre Meadow may place 1 of his or her clues on an Abomination enemy in Ten-Acre Meadow. (Group limit once per game). "

For your first location, the most clues that can be placed is 1. For this location here, if you have 4 investigators, each with a clue, when the free trigger is triggered, you can place 4 clues, one from each investigator at Ten-Acre Meadow.

@psmythirl the thing you're overlooking about 'an investigator' is it is singular: not each, just one.

Thanks Eeyogre and zooeyglass , since they went to the trouble of saying each on Ten-Acre Meadow there is no reason to suppose that they wouldn't also have done so on Dunwich Village, if that's what was intended.

47 minutes ago, zooeyglass said:

@psmythirl the thing you're overlooking about 'an investigator' is it is singular: not each, just one.

Did you read my original reply on this point?

5 minutes ago, psmythirl said:

Thanks Eeyogre and zooeyglass , since they went to the trouble of saying each on Ten-Acre Meadow there is no reason to suppose that they wouldn't also have done so on Dunwich Village, if that's what was intended.

Did you read my original reply on this point?

I did - I was replying to your final question in that reply, unless we're talking at cross-purposes?

It looks like you've used reasonable comprehension to make a logical step that the card unfortunately simply doesn't support. 'An investigator in Dunwich Village' isn't looking for 'every' or 'each' investigator in Dunwich, or indeed 'every investigator who meets this condition'. It's just 'one' investigator, with the added condition that they need to be 'in Dunwich Village', as opposed to any of the other five locations. Is there anything that still doesn't make sense on this, though?

13 minutes ago, zooeyglass said:

It looks like you've used reasonable comprehension to make a logical step that the card unfortunately simply doesn't support. 'An investigator in Dunwich Village' isn't looking for 'every' or 'each' investigator in Dunwich, or indeed 'every investigator who meets this condition'. It's just 'one' investigator, with the added condition that they need to be 'in Dunwich Village', as opposed to any of the other five locations. Is there anything that still doesn't make sense on this, though?

All I'm saying is that while I agree that the intention is that it should only be applicable to one investigator, logically and semantically, the text on the card doesn't say that, and the rules ref. specification for 'An' doesn't provide any further limiting context. It would be better for the card text to say 'One' where that is what is intended, just as they they have explicitly said 'Each' where that is the intention. An addition to the rules ref. saying that 'An investigator' always only refers to one eligible investigator would make the discussion moot.

The point that

1 hour ago, zooeyglass said:

For your first location, the most clues that can be placed is 1. 

is not relevant, since the thought that led me to this question in the first place, is whether it would be better to wait until later, and return to that location when more than one investigator has a clue, before using the fast trigger.

Anyway, given the text on the other cards I'm happy that the matter is settled.