Special Forces desires for Clone Wars

By Docgimmethenews, in Star Wars: Legion

What would you guys like to see??? These are what I'm thinking, if I missed something, shout it out!

Republic:

-Galactic Marines (this would be my pipe dream)

-Clone Commandos (contains the Strike Team)

-ARC Troops

-Wookies???

-Clone Jump Troopers/Airborne???

CIS:

-Droid Commandos (contains the Strike Team)

-Mandalorians

-B2 "Jump Troopers"

-Geonoisans

-Magna Gaurds

It’s not special forces (more likely Operative), but I would love to see Pong Krell for the separatists.

One size larger base than the B1s, and two double bladed lightsabers. That would look so cool on the table and scary from a Republic perspective.

3 hours ago, JediPartisan said:

It’s not special forces (more likely Operative), but I would love to see Pong Krell for the separatists.

One size larger base than the B1s, and two double bladed lightsabers. That would look so cool on the table and scary from a Republic perspective.

I don't understand why he would be on a medium base (which would be awkward for a trooper anyway) when he isn't any bigger than a Wookiee or Grievous.

Still sticking to GCW for the forseeable but I'd buy these instantly

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I want to see ARC troops and maybe some of the “bad batch” as operatives or maybe utilizing the new counterpart word so they’re a mini unit of unique individuals.

I want Galactic Marines and the Scout Troopers the most and it seems SF is their probable fit. ARC troopers would be #3 on my list. CIS Magna Guard and BX series droids.

I don't really care too much about the CIS, but the Republic needs Clone Commandos, pronto. After that, I'd love to see Clone Paratroopers come in as a cross between Deathtroopers and Pathfinders. Clone scouts would be cool, as long as they functioned more as actual scouts than snipers. That little shtick is getting old, and should be left to the Commandos.

Galactic Marines should be a corps option. We don't see anything about them to suggest they are anything more than a slightly more elite form of standard infantry, just like Shoretroopers and Snowtroopers.

And once again, ARC troopers should not be an SF unit. To the best of my knowledge, we never see them working together in groups bigger than two in the Disney Canon, and only see groups of them operate in a unit twice in the EU (both of which are in the old CW cartoon series). They're supposed to be the definition of an operative, a lone wolf on a long range assignment. They occasionally are used to beef up a standard infantry unit, which is the role an operative fills in this game, but that's about it. Even during Muunilinst, you could argue that is what they were doing, beefing up a light infantry clone unit for the special task of taking out the artillery, and seizing the Muun's command center. Obi's little speech about them being the best, and that's why they were chosen almost comes off as a justification of that very unusual practice of grouping them together. Sadly, people don't seem to get any of this and keep demanding it.

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Aqua Droids! They look so cool!

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2 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

I don't really care too much about the CIS, but the Republic needs Clone Commandos, pronto. After that, I'd love to see Clone Paratroopers come in as a cross between Deathtroopers and Pathfinders. Clone scouts would be cool, as long as they functioned more as actual scouts than snipers. That little shtick is getting old, and should be left to the Commandos.

Galactic Marines should be a corps option. We don't see anything about them to suggest they are anything more than a slightly more elite form of standard infantry, just like Shoretroopers and Snowtroopers.

And once again, ARC troopers should not be an SF unit. To the best of my knowledge, we never see them working together in groups bigger than two in the Disney Canon, and only see groups of them operate in a unit twice in the EU (both of which are in the old CW cartoon series). They're supposed to be the definition of an operative, a lone wolf on a long range assignment. They occasionally are used to beef up a standard infantry unit, which is the role an operative fills in this game, but that's about it. Even during Muunilinst, you could argue that is what they were doing, beefing up a light infantry clone unit for the special task of taking out the artillery, and seizing the Muun's command center. Obi's little speech about them being the best, and that's why they were chosen almost comes off as a justification of that very unusual practice of grouping them together. Sadly, people don't seem to get any of this and keep demanding it.

Excellent assessment. I think it would be cool if it was an operative too!

Also agree with Galactic Marines being corps now that I think about it.

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I am torn about the arc troopers considering they could be the special forces version of normal corps like the pathfinders and deathtroopers or the veteran version of a normsl corps like shoretroopers and rebel veterans. Considering that the phase 2 troopers are going the veteran route they seem to be a shoe in for special forces

7 minutes ago, chr335 said:

I am torn about the arc troopers considering they could be the special forces version of normal corps like the pathfinders and deathtroopers or the veteran version of a normsl corps like shoretroopers and rebel veterans. Considering that the phase 2 troopers are going the veteran route they seem to be a shoe in for special forces

I’d rather see ARCs as SF of those options. They are more truly SF than they are elite corps.

I think rather than an even higher premium corps over phase 2, I’d rather see a non-clone group of scrubs that they can take instead - Gungans, Mon calamari, or royal Naboo security are all solid choices.

1 minute ago, ScummyRebel said:

I’d rather see ARCs as SF of those options. They are more truly SF than they are elite corps.

I think rather than an even higher premium corps over phase 2, I’d rather see a non-clone group of scrubs that they can take instead - Gungans, Mon calamari, or royal Naboo security are all solid choices.

Based on how the phase 2 is kitted out it is looking like arc troopers will be special forces. Not really sure what the Republic is going to do for a close quarters combat Corp or special forces but I expect to be surprised

14 minutes ago, chr335 said:

Based on how the phase 2 is kitted out it is looking like arc troopers will be special forces. Not really sure what the Republic is going to do for a close quarters combat Corp or special forces but I expect to be surprised

Wookies would fit the bill for the counterpart to the B2, and making them a corp unit would differentiate them from the Rebellion.

3 hours ago, Alpha17 said:

And  once again, ARC troopers should not be an SF unit. To the best of my knowledge, we never see them working to  gether in groups bigger than two in the Disney Canon, and only see groups of them operate in a unit twice in the EU (both of which are in the old CW cartoon series). Th  ey're supposed to be the definition of an operative  ,  a lone wolf on a long range assignment. Th  ey oc   c   asionally are used to beef up a standard infantry unit, which is the role an operative fills in this game, but th    at's abo  ut i  t.

What if we got an ARC trooper operative that could be attached to Corps as a Heavy or even in the Personnel slot?

Too weird?

I’d still guess they’ll end up being SF, though, because FFG knows people will want to play multiple units of purely ARC troopers.

4 hours ago, Alan Noir said:

Still sticking to GCW for the forseeable but I'd buy these instantly

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VODE AN!!! I'll swap out my Death Trooper army for Commandos right now!

I'm hoping for ARCs to be operatives so I can run Delta, Omega, and a couple Nulls in the same army.

As far as other stuff, I expect we'll get:

•Veteran Corps - Galactic Marines/?

•Regular SF - Clone Commandos/Commando Droids

•"Pathfinder" SF - Airborne Clones/Death Watch

•"Guard" SF - Maybe Naboo Palace Security? Entourage for Amidala/Magna-guards

17 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

What if we got an ARC trooper operative that could be attached to Corps as a Heavy or even in the Personnel slot?

Too weird?

That’s not far-fetched. Imperial Officer and Rebel Officer can be played as a unit or in a personnel slot. I’d love to have the flexibility to choose between Fives as an operative and Fives leading a batch of shinies.

5 hours ago, arnoldrew said:

I don't understand why he would be on a medium base (which would be awkward for a trooper anyway) when he isn't any bigger than a Wookiee or Grievous.

He is actually taller than a Wookiee.

Wookiees = 2.1m

Krell = 2.36m

Also Wookiees are quite slender. Krell is built like a tank and has 4 arms (so more mass). Think about the weapon Maul uses, then imagine one in each hand. I think Krell would look silly on a small base, but maybe a medium is too big too.

Edit: Actually, if you want a better visual, take a look at Dex from Dex’s Diner . He’s short for his species (1.88m) and overweight, but his body mass is easily two to three times that of Obi. And just look at the size of his hands compared to the table.

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1 hour ago, GooeyChewie said:

That’s not far-fetched. Imperial Officer and Rebel Officer can be played as a unit or in a personnel slot. I’d love to have the flexibility to choose between Fives as an operative and Fives leading a batch of shinies.

Oh, duh, forgot about that! I think that’s be a cool way to go, though I won’t complain if we just get a squadron of them.

2 hours ago, GunNut said:

I'm hoping for ARCs to be operatives so I can run Delta, Omega, and a couple Nulls in the same army.

As far as other stuff, I expect we'll get:

•Veteran Corps - Galactic Marines/?

•Regular SF - Clone Commandos/Commando Droids

•"Pathfinder" SF - Airborne Clones/Death Watch

•"Guard" SF - Maybe Naboo Palace Security? Entourage for Amidala/Magna-guards

I disagree with the galactic marines being the veteran unit for the Republic given that the phase 2 troopers have the same upgrade bar as the two current veteran units. Perhaps the galactic marines will be the Republic's close quarters combat corp similar to the rebel fleet troopers (which are basically marines)

For melee special forces the Separatists are definitely getting magna guards the Republic is a bit more difficult as they have the Senate guards, wookiees, or jedi padawans so hard to pin down which will be picked

For close quarters units, I’m thinking Gungans with their electropoles. They could come with a Tech shield upgrade that gives them deflect, and a Grenade boomer upgrade that hits droids and vehicles with ion tokens.

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3 options jump out for CIS, only 2 seem particularly likely for the GAR though.

CIS:
Magnaguard - CQC
Geonosians - Paratrooper
Commando Droids - Ranged/Assassin option

GAR:
ARC Troopers - Paratrooper
Assorted Jedi - CQC (unit size 1, able to add 1 padawan/other jedi counterpart)

The Jedi as special forces would allow them to release a box with 6-7 assorted jedi figures and cards that can be mixed-matched into more than 3 combinations.

19 hours ago, SpiderMana said:

What if we got an ARC trooper operative that could be attached to Corps as a Heavy or even in the Personnel slot?

Too weird?

I’d still guess they’ll end up being SF, though, because FFG knows people will want to play multiple units of purely ARC troopers.

That could easily work. Give the ARC in the squad abilities like the Officer upgrade, and possibly their own weapon. Or, even more interestingly, give the ARC the option of being included in the Squad, but split off and become a separate unit during the game. Not sure how they'd do that mechanically, but it would fit thematically.

1 hour ago, Alpha17 said:

Or  , even more interestingly, give the ARC the option   of being included in the Squad, but split off and become a separate unit during the game. Not sure how they'd do t  hat mechanically, but it would fit thematically. 

While interesting, I think it’d make more sense for them to just be an Operative at that point.

What about as a Strike Team? Fill a SF slot but just be a pair of ARC troopers. No sniper, necessarily, even, to make things interesting. How much would people be willing to pay for that?

Another option: one Operative slot, but a pair of ARC troopers?

For that matter, is R2-D2 going to be an Operative, I’d assume? That would mean the Codependent keyword (I know that’s not it shh) on Threepio is their workaround to add multiple minis as one Operative... so who knows.