An N-1, ARC and 2 Jedi walk into a bar...

By Cuz05, in X-Wing Squad Lists

There is no punchline, but presumably, it would end with someone getting their arm cut off.

Anyway, taking those 4 ships, how would you build the list?

There is a slightly overwhelming array of options here, some already established, some notsomuch.

The notsomuch is where I'm starting my build, it makes things a little tricky with balance. Trick Shot, Col Det, Torpedo Anakin in the N-1 is a blast, so I'm sticking with it for a bit. Do share variants with alternate N-1 pilots though.

So this is what I have atm.

NaBOOnakin

(41) Anakin Skywalker [Naboo Royal N-1 Starfighter]
(9) Plasma Torpedoes
(4) Trick Shot
(6) Collision Detector
Points: 60

(43) Luminara Unduli [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(3) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 46

(44) Plo Koon [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(4) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 48

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

Total points: 196

I'd rather have CLT Obi over Lumi but that necessitates Ion Torps or APT on Ani. The R3 threat seems more useful for him but Ion will be kinda situational and possibly not consistently impactful.

Basic idea is that Ani and the ARC will be set up as seperate targets. Plo will shadow Ani and help double mod his Trick Torp. Lumi shadows the ARC and slightly aids it's survival. Ideally, the Jedi can then take advantage of the space that opens up. The ARC can then block while Ani attempts to snipe, disengaging as needed to find a new spot.

Depending on who they go for, I aim to leave options for the Jedi to move their support wholesale to either of the hitters. Otherwise, the list just operates as 2 wing pairs, cycling in and out.

I'll not be sending too many obvious early signals on how the 4 will split, slow rolling to some degree. Hopefully setting up some bait and switch.

Another alternate I was curious about, giving up the Torps to make the ARC more bashy.... Not sure on the complete lack of bid and 3 fighters with only a 2 die basic primary. A nice spread of point values though.

(41) Anakin Skywalker [Naboo Royal N-1 Starfighter]
(4) Trick Shot
(6) Collision Detector
Points: 51

(47) Obi-Wan Kenobi [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(4) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 51

(44) Plo Koon [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(4) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 48

(50) "Wolffe" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 50

Total points: 200

If you're taking Luminara Unduli, then I think the combination of her plus Padme is worth looking at - reduce an incoming hit to a focus then stop your opponent modifying it back.

Plo and Obi-Wan work well together to reliably give you focus tokens where you need them, but do Luminara and Plo work together that well?

21 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Another alternate I was curious about, giving up the Torps to make the ARC more bashy.... Not sure on the complete lack of bid and 3 fighters with only a 2 die basic primary.

Well, it's not like the Delta-7s are really only a 2-dice ship, is it; Calibrated Laser Targeting takes some finesse to use but it's at least as good as a 3rd die if you can line it up.

I made cut at a local tournament at the weekend with a slight variation on your ship list... primarily because I only own one Jedi but two Arcs. It has a phenomenal alpha with the Arcs escorting the N1, and Obi can flank and still dump three red dice on you. I call it the "Arcs de Tri-Oomph".

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Obi-Wan Kenobi - 66
•Obi-Wan Kenobi - Guardian of the Republic (47)
Delta-7B (19)

Naboo Royal N-1 Starfighter - Bravo Flight Officer - 50
Bravo Flight Officer - (34)
Passive Sensors (3)
Proton Torpedoes (13)

ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 42
104th Battalion Pilot - (42)

ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 42
104th Battalion Pilot - (42)

Total: 200/200

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Edited by Waldorf28
2 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

If you're taking Luminara Unduli, then I think the combination of her plus Padme is worth looking at - reduce an incoming hit to a focus then stop your opponent modifying it back.

- I've seen this used a bit. It seems a little fiddly to fly well and make good use of, but the synergy is obviously there. The reason I'm currently going Anakin is simply because his ability is bonkers fun. 'Not an action' is a small thing but makes an enormous difference to the places he can be.

Padme/Lumi does offer a more typical, perhaps more dependable element.

Plo and Obi-Wan work well together to reliably give you focus tokens where you need them, but do Luminara and Plo work together that well?

-I don't think there's really anything going on between them, no. I don't know how much that will matter....

Mace and Saesee are alternatives as well. The former seems to be in every Jedi list though, which is a major turn off for me. The latter just doesn't seem right for this one. So that's mostly why Lumi instead of Obi :D

Well, it's not like the Delta-7s are really only a 2-dice ship, is it; Calibrated Laser Targeting takes some finesse to use but it's at least as good as a 3rd die if you can line it up.

-Very true, but I prefer not to think of the CLT effect as a baseline. There will be lists and pilots that can reliably switch it off, in which case, I like to be mindful of what I can consistently deliver.

Thanks for your input. Perhaps a more straight line approach would fall like so. A traditional flanker in Mace, with a defensively tuned main group.

(45) Padmé Amidala [Naboo Royal N-1 Starfighter]
(3) Passive Sensors
(9) Plasma Torpedoes
Points: 57

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(3) Calibrated Laser Targeting
(5) R4-P17
Points: 53

(43) Luminara Unduli [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(3) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 46

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

Total points: 198

Doesn't quite tick my fly like loon boxes in the way Anakin does though, as well as looking a little predictable in its approach. My opponents not knowing what the heck I'm up to is always one of my main weapons :D

I might buckle and try Mace for the Obi/Lumi spot, but he is so terribly popular...

I've never flown any other Jedi but Obi. I love Obi as a character. I think there's a great argument for flying what you love and making it work.

Unless what you love is Oddball. Don't do that :).

2 minutes ago, Waldorf28 said:

I've never flown any other Jedi but Obi. I love Obi as a character. I think there's a great argument for flying what you love and making it work.

Unless what you love is Oddball. Don't do that :).

Last night I did actually diverge massively and ponder Obi, Ric and Oddball as a list :D

12 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

Last night I did actually diverge massively and ponder Obi, Ric and Oddball as a list :D

Ya mean like this? Try it, it's fun.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (47)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)

Ric Olié (42)
Daredevil (3)
R2-C4 (5)

“Wolffe” (50)
Elusive (3)
Shield Upgrade (4)

“Odd Ball” (35)
Concussion Missiles (6)
Munitions Failsafe (1)
Total: 200

2 hours ago, Pa Weasley said:

Ya mean like this? Try it, it's fun.

Nope, just Ric, Obi and Oddball!

Adding Wolffe on top seems a much better idea :D