FFG editions v. BI editions

By Cervantes3773, in Dark Heresy

Hey guys,

I already have the BI editions of the core book, the inquisitor's handbook, and purge the unclean. For which, if any of them, is it worth picking up the FFG editions? I understand that they corrected some errata, is this true?

Thanks for your help!

I've been led to believe that the IH and PtU were published as hard covers by FFG. I could be wrong. I have not seen them as I also have the BI editions and use the boards to resolve errata issues. I don't know of any other significant difference between the FFG and BI editions.

Core book, Inquisitors handbook, dont worry about PTU unless you want it hardback or are that keen on helping DH make money.

Vespers said:

I've been led to believe that the IH and PtU were published as hard covers by FFG. I could be wrong. I have not seen them as I also have the BI editions and use the boards to resolve errata issues. I don't know of any other significant difference between the FFG and BI editions.

Same here the country is crawling with the BI editions but have so far only seen the core book by FFG. I will buy them in hardback however because I'm weird about that. I prefer hardback; some of my WFRPG books look horrible after use like Night's Dark Masters and I want to prevent that from happening to my DH books.

I currently have the Inquisitor's Handbook by BI and from my browsing of the FFG version in the store, there seems to be no difference other than FFG's being hardcover. PtU was also published by FFG as a hardcover, but I wasn't able to see the BI edition to see if anything new was added during the transition as it was plastic bound.

PTU is an adventure anthologyu, so any errata updates, not that important.

Core and IHB have errata updates, will see more use and therefore are worth getting FFG versions IMHO.

The FFG editions of the Core Rulebook and the Inquisitor's Handbook contain the 1.0 errata, and those two books with Purge the Unclean also had several graphic elements and pictures were improved, and many grayscale or black and white pictures were replaced by full color versions.

All of the above and hardcover too!

Tempted as I am to buy the FFG reprint of DH corebook, and put my BI one to rest in my library of veteran games, I'm still a bit reluctant since errata 2.0 might forebode another corrected reprint.

What should I do ??? Holy Emperor, send me a sign !!

*a sign, I said, not a squad of Astartes... meh !!

FFG Ross Watson said:

...many grayscale or black and white pictures were replaced by full color versions...

Once again, those among you with dichromatic vision feel like we are missing out on something. sad.gif

trying to make my collector's edition look like a waste of money, Ross? gran_risa.gif

Bugger, errats changes eh.

I still have my BL Core book and IH, along with an FFG DotDG. Personally I saw heaps of typos and misprints in the BL books, so I wouldn't mind finding them fixed, let alone getting IH in hardcover. (yeah I'm one of them hard lovers as well.) Although I ido have to say, I saw a few pictures re-used in DotDG that were in the other books, as well as this strange use of 'See page @@' a few times. Very odd.

So I reckon I'll nick some change and perhaps by the FFG reprint. Although I wonder if the BL version will be a collectable as of rarity some day.... heh.

I have the BI versions for the core rulebook, IH, PTI and the GM shield. Only my DOTDG is from FFG and even if there are color pictures in it, I widely prefer the black and white artworks because they suit more to the dark and grim universe of WH40K than color one's...

Like Solardream said, there are some pictures from the firsts books which were used in DOTDG, which is regrettable when we know the huge pool of artwork that could have been picked up to replace them!

Concerning the cover, to me hardcover is good for a core rulebook, but dispensable for sourcebook...

About errata, I don't think it's necessary to pay for another copy of nearly the same books... I used a printed version of the pdf document "Errata 2.0" and, well, nobody sentence me for heresy yet!

Dualgoth said:

I have the BI versions for the core rulebook, IH, PTI and the GM shield. Only my DOTDG is from FFG and even if there are color pictures in it, I widely prefer the black and white artworks because they suit more to the dark and grim universe of WH40K than color one's...

Like Solardream said, there are some pictures from the firsts books which were used in DOTDG, which is regrettable when we know the huge pool of artwork that could have been picked up to replace them!

Concerning the cover, to me hardcover is good for a core rulebook, but dispensable for sourcebook...

About errata, I don't think it's necessary to pay for another copy of nearly the same books... I used a printed version of the pdf document "Errata 2.0" and, well, nobody sentence me for heresy yet!

For me the problem is remembering to check the 2.0 Errata everytime I look something up during, before, after a game. I still have the BI copies out on the table during games and what not to give the players access to rules and equipment and stats and what not, but after the game is over, we go to the FFG books to make sure any new purchases and what not are, uhm, well, kosher.

But to keep the game from getting slown down we use whatever book is close at hand.

But I agree, to me the "look we made it in colour" isnt a selling point for me. It just makes me say "so Im buying it again for a colour picture of a Sister of Battle?" I actually got the FFG Core Book and IHB for the hard covers (for the IHB) and the rule erratas.

And honestly, if a revised edition of the Core Book came out with 2.0 errata in it, Id get that too. But not if it was only The Colour Edition.

Keep the black and white, it doesnt change a thing, but updates Im interested in.

Thats why I didnt bother to get PtU from FFG. Despite being a big supporter of the system and game (over the past year I gave the book out for birthday and other presents <including this Christmas> to a total of 6 friends and the IHB and PtU to two friends and the GM kit to one friend) I dont need a colour revised, hard back copy of a set of adventures. I rarely, if ever run published adventures anyway and only bought it for the space zombies, the space marine and the space drow (er I mean Eldar Corsairs).

Anyway, looking forward to DotDG and CA, and hopefully those friends are hooked and get those **** books on their own LOL.

Oh, and Dualgoth....HERESY!!!!

Peacekeeper_b said:

For me the problem is remembering to check the 2.0 Errata everytime I look something up during, before, after a game. I still have the BI copies out on the table during games and what not to give the players access to rules and equipment and stats and what not, but after the game is over, we go to the FFG books to make sure any new purchases and what not are, uhm, well, kosher.

But to keep the game from getting slown down we use whatever book is close at hand.

But I agree, to me the "look we made it in colour" isnt a selling point for me. It just makes me say "so Im buying it again for a colour picture of a Sister of Battle?" I actually got the FFG Core Book and IHB for the hard covers (for the IHB) and the rule erratas.

And honestly, if a revised edition of the Core Book came out with 2.0 errata in it, Id get that too. But not if it was only The Colour Edition.

Keep the black and white, it doesnt change a thing, but updates Im interested in.

Thats why I didnt bother to get PtU from FFG. Despite being a big supporter of the system and game (over the past year I gave the book out for birthday and other presents <including this Christmas> to a total of 6 friends and the IHB and PtU to two friends and the GM kit to one friend) I dont need a colour revised, hard back copy of a set of adventures. I rarely, if ever run published adventures anyway and only bought it for the space zombies, the space marine and the space drow (er I mean Eldar Corsairs).

Anyway, looking forward to DotDG and CA, and hopefully those friends are hooked and get those **** books on their own LOL.

Oh, and Dualgoth....HERESY!!!!

****, you unmasked me! But I won't allow you to catch me so easily...Huh, you know, heresy proves nothing lengua.gif

By the way, I agree that keeping in mind the errata when playing is not easy, and checking the book or the pdf each time there is a doubt about one rule or another slows the game considerably! So, I had the great idea, as my players named it, to edit an customized handout for each of them. The player who incarnates the imperial psyker knows exactly what his skills, talents and powers does, the same for the others.

Like this, I don't need to steadily check into the book, except for using special rules like pinning or mass combat.

Dualgoth said:

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I widely prefer the black and white artworks because they suit more to the dark and grim universe of WH40K than color one's...

Ohhh... so THAT'S why the setting speaks to me so clearly gran_risa.gif !