On 7/18/2019 at 12:06 PM, Fistofriles said:

did we not first see them in episode three on Kashyyyk, I am not 100% sure but think they were in the movie.

We did indeed see them in Episode III long before the Clone Wars. On Saleucami during order 66.

I'm sticking with Poggle the Lesser for the first cheap Commander. Released alongside a unit of special forces Geonosian warriors.

Core box in September

October / November will be Galactic Operative Release + Corps 2 + Commander release

December will be Heavies

On 7/19/2019 at 6:23 AM, F0RGED said:

So going to throw the Homing Spider Tank out as a potential for the next heavy for CIS. The reason I believe this is the vehicle is Iconic enough and while the model is tall, it should fit inside a reasonable box. There is also alot of open space to the vehicles volume, also looking at the core boxes are for both sides puts the AT-STs right behind Darth Vader and the Homing Spider right behind General Grievous if that is not an indication of what to expect from models for a game I would say poor advertising.

That is the ugliest/dumbest vehicle design from the movies.

Give me the grav tank and vulture droids first!

I'm guessing we'll see these two, due to their more manageable size.

On 7/17/2019 at 6:24 PM, JediPartisan said:

Are you serious, you’re correcting grammar on a Star Wars miniatures forum?

You either really like me, or hate my guts.

I suddenly feel so special.🤪😘😂😳

More importantly, this is one of the made-up rules trying to force the English language into the corset provided by Latin grammar, so better to disregard that paragraph entirely.

My hope is we eventually see Umbarans for the Seperatists.. they have some cool stuff.

On 7/21/2019 at 7:09 AM, AldousSnow said:

I'm sticking with Poggle the Lesser for the first cheap Commander. Released alongside a unit of special forces Geonosian warriors.

I wouldn't be surprised if the geonosians are the CIS third corps.

They are relatively weak and swarmy.

Plus, their flight (jump) would make for a really interesting corps bonus. They would also then NOT be a direct mirror to the jetpack clones.

6 hours ago, lologrelol said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the geonosians are the CIS third corps.

They are relatively weak and swarmy.

Plus, their flight (jump) would make for a really interesting corps bonus. They would also then NOT be a direct mirror to the jetpack clones.

Perhaps, as the devs have mentioned subfactions, that geonosians would be perfect for that.

7 hours ago, lologrelol said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the geonosians are the CIS third corps.

They are relatively weak and swarmy.

Plus, their flight (jump) would make for a really interesting corps bonus. They would also then NOT be a direct mirror to the jetpack clones.

Who are the second?

10 minutes ago, Lukez said:

Who are the second?

B2

1 hour ago, jcmonson said:

B2

Unless they make B2s Special Forces or Heavy. I agree it makes sense for them to be Corps, but one of the Corps units could also be Umbarans.

15 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Unless they make B2s Special Forces or Heavy. I agree it makes sense for them to be Corps, but one of the Corps units could also be Umbarans.

Those two slots have too many other choices for the B2 to make sense the special forces will get the commando droids and the Maga guard and heavies have a whole slew of vehicles that would fit better than the B2

Just now, jcmonson said:

Those two slots have too many other choices for the B2 to make sense the special forces will get the commando droids and the Maga guard and heavies have a whole slew of vehicles that would fit better than the B2

Most of those vehicles are larger than anything currently in the game (including the Occupier tank), likely necessitating a larger base, and having difficulty to fit in the deployment zone given that FFG is currently making vehicles to scale rather than a sliding scale.

Yes, as long as Disney is amenable, FFG could implement a sliding scale, but it's also possible FFG either doesn't have that option of just doesn't want to do that with Legion. Otherwise, the Occupier tank probably should have been sized down to fit in a Range 1 deployment zone without angling.

Also, some people might contend that Shoretroopers would have been better implemented some other way than as a third Corps option for Empire, with Mudtroopers taking their place, but our opinions as to what slot various Star Wars units occupier don't really matter so much as what FFG decides.

i was thinking more like the dwarf spider droid, crab droid, vulture droid in walking mode. The AAT could probably also work on an Occupier base that is sideways. I am also not totally convinced that some of the larger vehicles are too big for legion, though i know that is debatable.

39 minutes ago, jcmonson said:

i was thinking more like the dwarf spider droid, crab droid, vulture droid in walking mode. The AAT could probably also work on an Occupier base that is sideways. I am also not totally convinced that some of the larger vehicles are too big for legion, though i know that is debatable.

You can't use that base sideways. It only has notches on the ends.

10 minutes ago, arnoldrew said:

You can't use that base sideways. It only has notches on the ends.

Good point, i forgot about the notches for the movement tool, so FFG would have to make a new base regardless.

51 minutes ago, jcmonson said:

i was thinking more like the dwarf spider droid, crab droid, vulture droid in walking mode. The AAT could probably also work on an Occupier base that is sideways. I am also not totally convinced that some of the larger vehicles are too big for legion, though i know that is debatable.

The AAT is longer than the Occupier, in addition to wider. As mentioned previously, the notches have to be in the front and back for movement.

Dwarf spider Droid and crab droids are certainly a possibility. Vulture droids are unlikely since people would want them to convert between flying and land based.

But none of us actually know what FFGs plans are until we see the preview articles.

I could see Super Battle Droids as a corps unit.

The Commando Droids from Clone Wars as a special forces.

What about that weird tank from Revenge of the Sith that a wookie slaps an explosive on to? It had a center tread and giant eyes.

9 minutes ago, Omegaclone said:

I could see Super Battle Droids as a corps unit.

The Commando Droids from Clone Wars as a special forces.

What about that weird tank from Revenge of the Sith that a wookie slaps an explosive on to? It had a center tread and giant eyes.

The NR-N99 Persuader-class droid enforcer is listed as longer than the AAT, with a length right around 1.5 Occupier tanks.

The Hailfire Droid could work. Its listed as a length of 8.5 M but that is the diameter of the wheel and the base wouldn't need to be nearly that big.

21 minutes ago, jcmonson said:

The Hailfire Droid could work. Its listed as a length of 8.5 M but that is the diameter of the wheel and the base wouldn't need to be nearly that big.

Except I'm pretty sure it's wider the diameter of the wheel, so even overhanging the base (which often makes placing the model more difficult, since you can have the MODEL impact terrain while the base is fine, so now we need new rules for dealing with a pose not allowing placement), the model still wouldn't fit any currently existing bases.

17 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Except I'm pretty sure it's wider the diameter of the wheel, so even overhanging the base (which often makes placing the model more difficult, since you can have the MODEL impact terrain while the base is fine, so now we need new rules for dealing with a pose not allowing placement), the model still wouldn't fit any currently existing bases.

The screen caps from the movie shows it to be smaller, and the imperial speeder bikes already have a significant amount of overhang so no new rules would be needed.

9 minutes ago, jcmonson said:

The screen caps from the movie shows it to be smaller, and the imperial speeder bikes already have a significant amount of overhang so no new rules would be needed.

Fair enough on the overhang, I haven't built mine yet, nore seen them on the battlefield for awhile so forgot about those. That objection is withdrawn.

However, my estimate of them being as wide as the wheel diameter is based on the screenshots, as well as fan produced models for video game mods or 3D modeling projects. One of which place the width at 11.6 meters, which admittedly includes the angle of the wheels.

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/unusualsuspex/art/IG-227-Hailfire-class-droid-tank-ortho-New-566982106

9 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Fair enough on the overhang, I haven't built mine yet, nore seen them on the battlefield for awhile so forgot about those. That objection is withdrawn.

However, my estimate of them being as wide as the wheel diameter is based on the screenshots, as well as fan produced models for video game mods or 3D modeling projects. One of which place the width at 11.6 meters, which admittedly includes the angle of the wheels.

Source: https://www.deviantart.com/unusualsuspex/art/IG-227-Hailfire-class-droid-tank-ortho-New-566982106

yeah i see what you are saying. I was referring to the width at the point where it would touch the base, which as you can see from the picture you posted is smaller than the wheel is tall. You are probably right if you are talking about average width though. I also don't have an occupier so i am not entirely sure how much bigger it is than the ATST base.