3 hours ago, lologrelol said:

I hate all of the OP's choices. lol

Clones

• Commander Kodi (unless a clone commander will be the basic officer upgrade)
• Mace Windu
• Yoda
• Anakin?
• Ahsoka (OP)
• Padme? (maybe an OP)

Droids

• Dukku
• Maul
• Nute Gunray
• Archduke Poggle The Lesser
• Jango (OP)
• Asaj Ventress (OP)

While not exact, these are pretty close to my predictions as well.

5 hours ago, FearofaBlankPlanet said:

I'd thought about this, and I've been wondering whether FFG might give each faction a generic battlefield commander (clones would get Clone Commanders, Imperials would get Stormtrooper Commanders and so on).

Just a thought

Imperials already have the Imperial Officer for generic battlefield Commander. I think Clone Commander is likely to be the generic for GAR, and Droid Super Commander the generic for CIS.

7 hours ago, lologrelol said:

Clones

• Commander Kodi (unless a clone commander will be the basic officer upgrade)

Why couldnt we have both Cody and a generic clone commander?

14 minutes ago, lunitic501 said:

Why couldnt we have both Cody and a generic clone commander?

Because by definition they would be the same model I suppose. That does mean they could just put both cards in one box though.

7 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Because by definition they would be the same model I suppose. That does mean they could just put both cards in one box though.

Dont have to be same model, give them different poses, plus cody has that visor thing on his helmet, that can differentiate them.

20 hours ago, JediPartisan said:

The sniper/sab unit for the CIS has to be Commando Droids. This clip makes it probably a clinch.

They will probably have red defense dice too considering how they were depicted. See at time index 1:31. So I’m hoping that the clone snipers will also have red defense dice, but both factions’ strike teams will probably be more than 44 points.

The clone version will probably be based off the scouts from the Clone Wars animated movie, more specifically the scene at the beginning of this YouTube clip. In it they do seem to be wearing a modified helmet, but regular armor (so red defense dice as well).

As for second Commanders, it’s likely we’ll see someone less expensive, but less combative. For the Republic, it will no doubt be Wullf Yularen, or Shoan Kilian, or Wilhuff Tarkin. It probably won’t be Anakin or Ahsoka, as they will tend to be way over 100 points. Even Rex and/or Cody will probably be way over 100 points.

For the CIS second commander, it will be a tactical droid (of one kind or another, maybe Kalani - more specifically) or Whorm Loathsom. As well they won’t go with Dooku, or Maul, cause they would be at least as expensive as Grievous.

Anyone else have some clips or thoughts on other units, or the Commanders?

I know there have been other threads, but I don’t have a life and I can’t stand waiting, so I’m trying to easy my plastic crack addiction with speculation of what’s coming.

Which brings me to another point. I know others have said CW will probably drop in September, but I’m hoping we get it in August. If you look at FFG (really unreliable) “Upcoming” page, it reads that the CW Core Set is “On the Boat” as of June 25th. That puts the delivery date at August 16th (at least according to FFG estimates). Also the Card Pack has May 28 “On the Boat” which puts its delivery on July 19th.

Yeah, I know, I know. But I can dream can’t I?😊

For CIS: Dooku, Ventress, Maul.

For GAR: Anakin, Yoda, Mace.

It fits the GAR mo to just stick with Jedi commanders, and they can all be staggered in cost the same way the Rebel/Imp commanders are; bear in mind for Imps the jump is 80/200/210 for the first three; and even with Krennic there’s a huge swing there.

Very doubtful that they’d include any of the ship captains you listed, as they don’t really do ground combat.

p.s. probably will be, not will probably be. (The reason being that “Probably Be” doesn’t mean anything; “will be” does, and “probably” is a modifier for the entirety of “will be”).

All these characters that are either before the clone wars, or in the case of Maul, not suitable for the faction.

I would be extremely Surprised if we don't get Anakin, Dooku, Ahsoka, and Ventress next release cycle. The latter two will be operatives I suspect.

After that, I would see Padme, but she seems more operative material than commander. Cad Bane will likely come opposite her.

The assumption, and only time will tell, is that the rereleases will be roughly analogous as the Rebel and Empire ones were. Personally I don't know if they will. There are far too many Jedi to include, and frankly, the clone corp units should make a bulk of your army, and you will get them early on.

I suspect we will get a different release methodology, with the next corps being Super battle droids and phase II clones.

Some good predictions here, a lotta terrible ones too.

If Anakin and Dooku aren't the next commanders for either side, they're doing something wrong. Really wrong. Anakin will be a Knight, probably with his mullet from the latter half of TCW or Ep. III. In the new canon/order of events, he was knighted within about 6 months of Geonosis, so no reason for him to be a Padawan in game. I could easily see Ahsoka and Ventress as operatives or commanders, as both seem to fulfill either role well. I wouldn't expect a super cheap commander option for either side for a while, but a Tactical droid/Generic Clone Commander would fill the role well for both sides. The tactical droid should be the cheapest commander in the game, while the Clone Commander should be the most expensive generic, and relatively solid combat unit too. Cody will likely be the equivalent to Veers, but I wouldn't expect him for a few months.

The other commanders mentioned, Nute Gunray, Padme, etc, will likely happen eventually, but they most certainly don't need to happen soon. Can't say I've heard anybody look at Legion and say "man, if this game had Nute Gunray in it, I'd buy in immediately!"

As for other units, we know that the initial heavy units are in the mix, and likely to be announced in the next few weeks. My prediction for pairings are either the Saber-class fighter tank for the Republic and the Corporate Alliance Droid (snail tank) for the CIS, or the AT-AP for the Republic against the AAT. This assumes that they don't want to release similar vehicles against one another, and so thus are alternating what each side starts with. I'd love to see an AT-XT released at some point, but I figure that's a long shot.

I'd love to see the Clones get the E-Web soon, but I doubt that'll happen for a while. Be nice if they have it a generator upgrade card that let you attack at range 4 with half you die. Would finally make them useful. The Republic needs AT-RTs, hopefully with different but comparable weapon options. No clue what support units the CIS will have, besides STAPs.

For corps units, we all seem to expect Phase II troopers and B2s eventually, but I'd like to see the Phase IIs be a while in coming. Galactic Marines would be better first, or Naboo Security so we aren't just doing all clones all the time. B2s can release first as a slow but tanky unit, followed by Geonosians or other CIS flesh and blood troops like Nemoidian infantry.

When it comes to SF units, I really don't understand why on earth people keep insisting on shoehorning ARC troopers into this slot. Even in canon, we only see AT MOST two ARCs working together for anything besides the most crucial of missions (old canon's Muunilinst Ten or the rescue mission on Hypori) This makes ARCs a much better fit for the Operative slot, especially since they'll be the first generic operative unit in the game. Make them slightly weaker and cheaper clones of Boba in a lotta ways, and you've got a helluva good option. Additionally, the Republic already has an amazing SF team from both the EU and canon in the form of Clone Commandos. Make 'em a 4 man unit with different weapon configuration options, and a solid range 1-2 main weapon. To help combat the plague of strike teams, have them ONLY be able to operate in the full team, but give them the option of up to two minis firing a sniper rifle at a time (to help reduce guys hiding behind a wall). If the Republic just has to have strike teams, the camoed scouts from TCW would fit that bill a whole lot better than ARCs. Clone paratroopers would make a nice heavy infantry/SF option similar to deathtroopers. I'd give them an ability like Infiltrate, but leave 'em light on long range weaponry. (much like actual airborne forces) The CIS's SF options can either be a more "conventional" unit + strike team option, or they can be the Droideka sniper. Using the droideka would be nice, because it could be a single mini unit, and could be highly highly defensive, yet still not be the split up strike team we have now. Magna Guards would also easily fit into this slot as a droidier version of Royal Guards.
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1 hour ago, lunitic501 said:

Dont have to be same model, give them different poses, plus cody has that visor thing on his helmet, that can differentiate them.

This is assuming the same sort of static poses of previous releases still holds true at that point. The visor is also just part of Commander armour, so that doesn't differentiate either.

So it would be very easy to just put both cards in the same box, and would work just fine. Unless they include some kind of basing stuff, or have the Generic Officer in Phase 1 armour while the Phase 2 armour is reserved for named commander(s), or have the Generic be non-clone officer, such as Captain Wilhuff Tarkin (although he would also be an interesting inclusion as Commander/unit attachment...).

Right or Wrong, agree or disagree - Maul WILL be in one of the first few waves. He is too popular a character to not be included. **** we have Bossk in the Imperial faction and he is not what I would consider a popular character.

6 minutes ago, Cusm said:

Right or Wrong, agree or disagree - Maul WILL be in one of the first few waves. He is too popular a character to not be included. **** we have Bossk in the Imperial faction and he is not what I would consider a popular character.

Except he (Bossk) was fleshed out during episodes of the clone wars.. tutoring Young Boba.

Maul is popular but doesn't fit in the clone wars, until the Devs figure out how to do Deathwatch/shadow syndicate where it is more fitting to have him. Ventress was in, at least, every third episode of the CLONE WARS animated show which seems to be when everything is based around.

To me, that means Maul is a far ways off, he seemingly died long before the clone wars started, only to come back, shortly before it's end.

So many people are disregarding the show called Clone Wars, for phantom menace content.

As much as Cody was fun in the clone wars, there was nothing extremely stand-outing about him. Personally, I'd be happy with a generic clone commander that you can paint to look like Cody.

As to to ARC troopers.. I think people are indeed being too narrow minded.. perhaps ARC troopers (like Rex) can be done as a Detachment trooper? No reason why not. Perhaps with the phase II trooper? Or make up a new rule and have them be a heavy that doesn't need to be in cohesion. Allows for a different option and can be included in the minimal capacity that we see them, as outlined in either above hypothetical.

22 minutes ago, Cusm said:

Right or Wrong, agree or disagree - Maul WILL be in one of the first few waves. He is too popular a character to not be included. **** we have Bossk in the Imperial faction and he is not what I would consider a popular character.

This. Maul will be in the game. Possibly an operative option?

1 hour ago, Caimheul1313 said:

This is assuming the same sort of static poses of previous releases still holds true at that point. The visor is also just part of Commander armour, so that doesn't differentiate either.

So it would be very easy to just put both cards in the same box, and would work just fine. Unless they include some kind of basing stuff, or have the Generic Officer in Phase 1 armour while the Phase 2 armour is reserved for named commander(s), or have the Generic be non-clone officer, such as Captain Wilhuff Tarkin (although he would also be an interesting inclusion as Commander/unit attachment...).

Except FFG wants your money and wants to sell you more boxes/models I really doubt they will sell a box with one model but cards for two different units. Honestly I just want to see Cody as a commander, but i also fully expect that the generic republic commander will be a clone as well.

4 hours ago, Derrault said:

p.s. probably will be, not will probably be. (The reason being that “Probably Be” doesn’t mean anything; “will be” does, and “probably” is a modifier for the entirety of “will be”).

Are you serious, you’re correcting grammar on a Star Wars miniatures forum?

You either really like me, or hate my guts.

I suddenly feel so special.🤪😘😂😳

While I would want Maul in the game I think he would work better as a commander of a future scum faction. That way we can get a force user in another faction and a chance to get the Maul Mandalorians. Asajj Ventress would be a better candidate for the operative if looking at the Clone Wars TV show, books, and comics.

I would also like to see Cad Bane over Jango Fett. Either way i am very interested to see what way they go for both factions.

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

Except he (Bossk) was fleshed out during episodes of the clone wars.. tutoring Young Boba.

Maul is popular but doesn't fit in the clone wars, until the Devs figure out how to do Deathwatch/shadow syndicate where it is more fitting to have him. Ventress was in, at least, every third episode of the CLONE WARS animated show which seems to be when everything is based around.

To me, that means Maul is a far ways off, he seemingly died long before the clone wars started, only to come back, shortly before it's end.

So many people are disregarding the show called Clone Wars, for phantom menace content.

As much as Cody was fun in the clone wars, there was nothing extremely stand-outing about him. Personally, I'd be happy with a generic clone commander that you can paint to look like Cody.

As to to ARC troopers.. I think people are indeed being too narrow minded.. perhaps ARC troopers (like Rex) can be done as a Detachment trooper? No reason why not. Perhaps with the phase II trooper? Or make up a new rule and have them be a heavy that doesn't need to be in cohesion. Allows for a different option and can be included in the minimal capacity that we see them, as outlined in either above hypothetical.

You crap on Maul for not being in CW enough, yet crap on Cody, who was as constant as Rex, for not being special enough in the CW.

The big 3 Clones need to be in plastic - Rex, Cody and Fox. The prequels, including CW offer a ton of options that the OT does not have - 3/4 movies vs 3/4 movies and 100+ tv episodes. Outside of the bounty hunters, the Imperials do not have that many options for operatives, Rebels have a few more, but CIS and Republic are flushed with options, and FFG will more than likely go with the ones they perceive to be the most popular.

I am not arguing that Maul would not be best for another faction, I just do not think that is how it will work out, he will be Legion's version of X-Wing 1.0 Boba Fett.

55 minutes ago, Cusm said:

You crap on Maul for not being in CW enough, yet crap on Cody, who was as constant as Rex, for not being special enough in the CW.

The big 3 Clones need to be in plastic - Rex, Cody and Fox. The prequels, including CW offer a ton of options that the OT does not have - 3/4 movies vs 3/4 movies and 100+ tv episodes. Outside of the bounty hunters, the Imperials do not have that many options for operatives, Rebels have a few more, but CIS and Republic are flushed with options, and FFG will more than likely go with the ones they perceive to be the most popular.

I am not arguing that Maul would not be best for another faction, I just do not think that is how it will work out, he will be Legion's version of X-Wing 1.0 Boba Fett.

I'm not crapping on either. Cody was in clone wars a lot, yes, but I can't recall anything standout that he did. Rex on the other hand, went above and beyond character wise. Fives, Waxer and Boil had far more character development than Cody, but I'm not expecting them to be separate models.

I honestly believe that at this point FFG doesn't have to pull what they did with Boba in x-wing 1.0. The reason that Boba was in the Empire in x-wing was because at that point FFG wasn't sure if the game would succeed, but they wanted to include such an iconic ship as slave I. While Boba did work for the empire, on contract, he was never in the battle of Endor, or even a space battle.

FFG probably was conservative again with Legion, again not fully sure of its success at the point Boba was being developed so they (FFG) made him and later Bossk, Empire.

In Hindsight, they should have made him a separate faction, but the issue there is the Command token, so putting them in with the Empire makes sense. Thematically, Bossk and Boba operate under contract from the empire, in that time period.

Maul does not. While there is the possibility for him to show up in the future, so early doesn't make sense when you have Dooku who WAS the leader, if not figurehead, of the Separatists. We also have Ventress. Both those characters take up the space mechanically and thematically that, the Phantom Menace Maul would occupy. Post spider Maul will do what ever a post spider Maul can, but doesn't fit the separatist faction.

I was way off about the Republic Scout troopers. They probably will not have red defense dice. It looks like they have the same troops as the Empire, as seen here.

Pity really, but I guess they don’t really happen until Phase 2 is introduced, considering which movie they appear in and how close they are to being the Empire. I hope we see the other type and not the same as the Empire.

4 hours ago, lunitic501 said:

Except FFG wants your money and wants to sell you more boxes/models I really doubt they will sell a box with one model but cards for two different units. Honestly I just want to see Cody as a commander, but i also fully expect that the generic republic commander will be a clone as well.

Well, yeah. I was mostly pointing out that they COULD combine them to reduce the number of models they need to sculpt and encourage purchase by both groups who want a Generic Clone trooper Commander and Cody. They could then put a generic republic captain in the specialist box.

Again, I agree it's more likely FFG releases two different models, but it's not like they'd be particularly different.

Maul is CIS in X-wing; sure he's also a Scum (mostly) crew card, but again, he's in the CIS. There's no way they'll save him for a Scum faction that may or may not be coming years from now.

5 hours ago, Cusm said:

Right or Wrong, agree or disagree - Maul WILL be in one of the first few waves. He is too popular a character to not be included. **** we have Bossk in the Imperial faction and he is not what I would consider a popular character.

This. He is just too freakin cool to leave out.

27 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Well, yeah. I was mostly pointing out that they COULD combine them to reduce the number of models they need to sculpt and encourage purchase by both groups who want a Generic Clone trooper Commander and Cody. They could then put a generic republic captain in the specialist box.

Again, I agree it's more likely FFG releases two different models, but it's not like they'd be particularly different.

I fully expect Sidious as a commander at some point. Who will have a different model than palpy. Which I funnily thought it could just be his hologram on the little walking holo display.

On 7/16/2019 at 3:49 PM, That Blasted Samophlange said:

I think you are underestimating how much reach the clone wars series had, as well as how much FFG is going to draw on it.

You may be right. And I hope you are, because I would find it more interesting. But I have to figure no matter how popular The Clone Wars is, more people have seen the movies. And I can’t help noticing that Veers, who didn’t exactly get much screen time, got in before the likes of Thrawn and The Inquisitor. The only Rebels-specific character we have is Sabine, which probably bodes well for Ahsoka but not many others.

Oh, and that two-finger stance for Obi-Wan? It originated in Episode III when he fought the head clanker himself. FFG didn’t get it from The Clone Wars; FFG and The Clone Wars both got it from the movies.

57 minutes ago, GooeyChewie said:

You may be right. And I hope you are, because I would find it more interesting. But I have to figure no matter how popular The Clone Wars is, more people have seen the movies. And I can’t help noticing that Veers, who didn’t exactly get much screen time, got in before the likes of Thrawn and The Inquisitor. The only Rebels-specific character we have is Sabine, which probably bodes well for Ahsoka but not many others.

Thrawn is and Admiral. A commander of starships. He doesn't exactly fit the idea of a tabletop land battle game. The Grand inquisitor will show up eventually, but Veers was chosen because he is a non-force using ground commander character. He is a counterpart to Leia (who, while having latent force powers, does not manifest them outwardly). If you look at all the releases for Legion so far, they are roughly analogous to each other, offering new keywords at the same time to the faction. Veers is also a relatively cheap commander, whereas the grand inquisitor will likely be an operative.

If you can name another, non-force using commander that is primarily on the ground, that would be a better choice, please do. Most (command) Imperials we see are either Force users (vader, palps) or Ship commanders.

1 hour ago, GooeyChewie said:

Oh, and that two-finger stance for Obi-Wan? It originated in Episode III when he fought the head clanker himself. FFG didn’t get it from The Clone Wars; FFG and The Clone Wars both got it from the movies.

The stance, sure Ill give you that, but LOOK what he is wearing. Straight out of the clone wars animation. When did Obi-wan wear armour in the films?

The Clone Wars has a HUGE fan base. Probably more people like it over the actual movies. Plus with all the hoopla about the final season of clone wars, I see it as a great time to TIE/in (pun!) to the tabletop game. Unless you don't think Clone Commandos are going to show up? Because they've only been in video games and the Clone Wars (Gregor), but seem to be a perfect fit for Special Forces.

1 hour ago, That Blasted Samophlange said:

If you can name another, non-force using commander that is primarily on the ground, that would be a better choice, please do. Most (command) Imperials we see are either Force users (vader, palps) or Ship commanders.

Lt. Bolandin?

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bolandin

Tagge https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Cassio_Tagge

Igar https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Igar