On 7/8/2019 at 8:56 AM, Staelwulf said:

"Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back always strived to be family friendly" - Tauntaunscout

Ran across this post looking for something else. The first two films might just be the darkest of the Star Wars saga:

• Darth Vader chokes a Rebel officer to death, along with several Imperial officers

• Stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and an entire clan of Jawas in pursuit of R2-D2 and C3PO

• Multiple hands and arms are cut off

• The Death Star destroys the entire planet of Alderaan, killing millions

• Han is tortured

That's not the stuff of your typical family flick.

2 hours ago, NokDrayen said:

Ran across this post looking for something else. The first two films might just be the darkest of the Star Wars saga:

• Darth Vader chokes a Rebel officer to death, along with several Imperial officers

• Stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and an entire clan of Jawas in pursuit of R2-D2 and C3PO

• Multiple hands and arms are cut off

• The Death Star destroys the entire planet of Alderaan, killing millions

• Han is tortured

That's not the stuff of your typical family flick.

Episode III has Anakin Behead Count Dooku, kill younglings and you see him burning on the group crying out in agony.

Many of your examples are inferred not actually shown, like Han being tortured or Alderaan being blown up we don't see people crying out as the hear of the explosion occurs.

2 hours ago, NokDrayen said:

Ran across this post looking for something else. The first two films might just be the darkest of the Star Wars saga:

• Darth Vader chokes a Rebel officer to death, along with several Imperial officers

• Stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and an entire clan of Jawas in pursuit of R2-D2 and C3PO

• Multiple hands and arms are cut off

• The Death Star destroys the entire planet of Alderaan, killing millions

• Han is tortured

That's not the stuff of your typical family flick.

Episode 4 still has R2 and C3P0's comedy antics, the jawas, and Han's slapstick heroics in the Death Star.

Episode 5 has Yoda, a decidedly goofy character when we first meet him. It also has a lot of C3P0 and Han humor throughout.

Star Wars has always been a family film franchise. Meaning that there is something in the films for everyone, not just children.

Revenge of the Sith is probably the darkest film of the franchise. The opening scene above Coruscant has its goofy fun moments but most of the movie maintains a gloomy operatic tone. And then of course we have Order 66, Anakins and Obi-wan's duel nd Padme dying.

2 hours ago, NokDrayen said:

Ran across this post looking for something else. The first two films might just be the darkest of the Star Wars saga:

• Darth Vader chokes a Rebel officer to death, along with several Imperial officers

• Stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and an entire clan of Jawas in pursuit of R2-D2 and C3PO

• Multiple hands and arms are cut off

• The Death Star destroys the entire planet of Alderaan, killing millions

• Han is tortured

That's not the stuff of your typical family flick.

7 minutes ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

Episode 4 still has R2 and C3P0's comedy antics, the jawas, and Han's slapstick heroics in the Death Star.

Episode 5 has Yoda, a decidedly goofy character when we first meet him. It also has a lot of C3P0 and Han humor throughout.

Star Wars has always been a family film franchise. Meaning that there is something in the films for everyone, not just children.

Revenge of the Sith is probably the darkest film of the franchise. The opening scene above Coruscant has its goofy fun moments but most of the movie maintains a gloomy operatic tone. And then of course we have Order 66, Anakins and Obi-wan's duel nd Padme dying.

Seen a few places say that George Lucas always thought that Star Wars was aimed more at kids. Of course as with most things Lucas he screwed it up a lot by jumping back and forth never setting a real tone. With rumors that he hates ESB beacasue of how dark it is and why RotJ is so kid friendly.

Just look at TPM a film that has long stretches of film just talking about politics and Padme switching identities at least four times, but yet has Jar Jar doing two poop jokes......... Pretty sure the whole Han shot first thing is based off of Lucas thinking that Han went too dark and he has been fighting fans for years just to make Han a "good guy" from the start.

The best example of this strange back and forth is the Clone Wars. The show made for kids, but had to censored at least twice for TV and does a lot of political stuff.

• Pretty much anything with Cad Bane who broke a neck and literally tortured a person to death on screen
• The Ventress kiss death
• Ahsoka's quad decapitation
• Padme's entire arc thought the series was nothing but dealing with the deregulation of the banks.

I love Ewoks. That is all.

Here's a point:

You can shoot through modern infantry armour with a recurve bow.

The shortbows of the Ewoks could easily penetrate what is effectively laser absorbing plastic.

Also, regarding Ewoks in Legion, they should be a Corps unit.

star wars is ridiculous, the force is literally pants on head deus ex machina.
oh yeah but that one thing that you dont like is totally what made it bad.

bring on the battle bears! im pretty sure the upper managment at FFG has changed enough that whatever sour old man who hated Ewoks is gone.

On 2/14/2020 at 10:23 AM, NokDrayen said:

Ran across this post looking for something else. The first two films might just be the darkest of the Star Wars saga:

• Darth Vader chokes a Rebel officer to death, along with several Imperial officers

• Stormtroopers kill Luke's aunt and uncle and an entire clan of Jawas in pursuit of R2-D2 and C3PO

• Multiple hands and arms are cut off

• The Death Star destroys the entire planet of Alderaan, killing millions

• Han is tortured

That's not the stuff of your typical family flick.

You have to place these movies in their time. This was a time before PG-13. A time before it was okay for adults to like childish things. Movies about actual wars were for adults. SciFi movies with robots and space ships were for kids because they were pure fantasy. A scifi movie needed an R rating for it to be for adults. Keep in mind Star Wars came out only a few years after an active draft ended in the US. Things were more serious back then, in a way. These days an adult can go see a pixar movie by themselves and not have parents gathering their kids close out of fear their child would end up on a milk carton. It's safe to say these were kids movies at the time of their release. By today's standard, sure, they are just movies.