Picked up a G-1A recently, and 4-LOM seems absolutely beastly to me. Put together this list to try and capitalize on the whole "Deal out stress" thing:

4-LOM (49)
Predator (2)
Advanced Sensors (10)
0-0-0 (5)
Mist Hunter (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)

Ship total: 72 Half Points: 36 Threshold: 5

Viktor Hel (44)
Predator (2)
Cloaking Device (5)
Inertial Dampeners (6)
Stealth Device (6)

Ship total: 63 Half Points: 32 Threshold: 3

Manaroo (47)
Predator (2)
Latts Razzi (7)
BT-1 (2)
Electronic Baffle (2)

Ship total: 60 Half Points: 30 Threshold: 5


Total: 195

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4-LOM's got the title on his ship for a bit of arc-dodging and re-positioning, given that Advanced Sensors seems almost tailor-made just for him. Hel's there to force a "lesser of two evils" choice on the enemy, either adding further stress or ignoring a beefy, toothy fighter. Manaroo takes advantage of the stress tokens stacking up here and there with BT-1 and Latts, as well as to dole out a token or two if need be.

Thoughts?

4-LOM is, in fact, absolutely glorious with AdSen and 0-0-0. The title has always seemed optional to me, something to include if there happen to be the points after the rest of the squad has been filled up. And it's the rest of the squad about which I wonder.

Viktor is sub-par at best, while Manaroo seems underutilized here. I wonder if more "f(_)ck you" kinda ships are better with LOM.

4-LOM (AdSen, 0-0-0, Mist Hunter)

Ketsu (Fearless, Shadowcaster)

Palob (Moldy Crow)

Stress-dealing, token-stealing, tractor-beaming. And lots of offensive mods

1 hour ago, Greebwahn said:

4-LOM is, in fact, absolutely glorious with AdSen and 0-0-0. The title has always seemed optional to me, something to include if there happen to be the points after the rest of the squad has been filled up. And it's the rest of the squad about which I wonder.

Viktor is sub-par at best, while Manaroo seems underutilized here. I wonder if more "f(_)ck you" kinda ships are better with LOM.

4-LOM (AdSen, 0-0-0, Mist Hunter)

Ketsu (Fearless, Shadowcaster)

Palob (Moldy Crow)

Stress-dealing, token-stealing, tractor-beaming. And lots of offensive mods

This is very similar to one I really want to try.

Have you played any games with it - if so how did it go?

This is one I’ve always enjoyed since 2.0 came out. Though with Hate’s increase I’d likely want 0-0-0 on Lando over it and just run Asajj with no upgrades.

Lando, 4-LOM, Asajj

(49) Lando Calrissian [Customized YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(6) Lando's Millennium Falcon
Points: 55

(49) 4-LOM [G-1A Starfighter]
(2) Mist Hunter
(0) Jamming Beam
(10) Advanced Sensors
Points: 61

(74) Asajj Ventress [Lancer-class Pursuit Craft]
(9) Hate
Points: 83

Total points: 199

2 hours ago, Hugeman said:

This is very similar to one I really want to try.

Have you played any games with it - if so how did it go?

I can't speak to it really with personal experience - I'm more of a rebel player haha. But functionality wise, there are a lot of parallels, e.g. Ten and 4-LOM

15 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

4-LOM is, in fact, absolutely glorious with AdSen and 0-0-0. The title has always seemed optional to me, something to include if there happen to be the points after the rest of the squad has been filled up. And it's the rest of the squad about which I wonder.

Viktor is sub-par at best, while Manaroo seems underutilized here. I wonder if more "f(_)ck you" kinda ships are better with LOM.

4-LOM (AdSen, 0-0-0, Mist Hunter)

Ketsu (Fearless, Shadowcaster)

Palob (Moldy Crow)

Stress-dealing, token-stealing, tractor-beaming. And lots of offensive mods

Thought about Palob for a while myself, and I may try him in some iteration of the list. Sadly, I don't own a Lancer yet, but how about this for "f*** you"-style of play?

4-LOM (49)
Predator (2)
Advanced Sensors (10)
0-0-0 (5)
Mist Hunter (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (4)

Ship total: 72 Half Points: 36 Threshold: 5

Constable Zuvio (35)
Elusive (3)
Ketsu Onyo (5)
Conner Nets (6)
Cloaking Device (5)
Stealth Device (6)

Ship total: 60 Half Points: 30 Threshold: 3

Kavil (43)
Trick Shot (4)
Ion Cannon Turret (5)
Hotshot Gunner (7)
R4 Astromech (2)
Seismic Charges (3)

Ship total: 64 Half Points: 32 Threshold: 4


Total: 196

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Zuvio can stay cloaked and still use his Tractor Array, unless I'm mistaken, so Ketsu's along for the ride there in a craft rolling 5 evade dice + Elusive (4 after a hit), making sure those tractor tokens stick around; Kavil's stripping tokens and trying to ionize everything in sight. Seems like it might be a good little bit of mayhem. I'm gonna try it this Thursday and see what I think. Also, thanks for the feedback!

Predator and HLC don't get along, so I'd for sure be snipping one of them off LOM! Otherwise looks decent

On 7/1/2019 at 7:59 PM, Greebwahn said:

4-LOM  is, in fact, absolutely glorious with AdSen and 0-0-0. The title has always seemed optional to me  , something t  o include if ther  e happen to be the points after the rest of the squad has been filled up

I’ll agree that 0-0-0 synergizes well with 4-LOM, but I disagree that the title is optional. You’re not always going to want the barrel roll, but it can be clutch when you need it.

My 4-LOM of choice is:

4-LOM (49)
Elusive (3)
Advanced Sensors (10)
Qi’ra (2)
Mist Hunter (2)
Jamming Beam (0)
Total: 66

The Jamming Beam isn’t special; it’s just filling the slot. If the list has room, I’d definitely consider bumping it to a Tractor, Autoblaster, or HLC.

One layer of the magic here comes from Elusive. It adds absolutely stupid amounts of durability, because 4-LOM always wants to do red maneuvers. Seriously: you want Elusive on 4-LOM.

Qi’ra seems like a funky choice until the fateful turn comes when you get stuck flying over a rock that you can’t otherwise barrel roll around. Then you start to see how she adds another layer of magic. Because you target lock the thing, fly over it... and realize that nothing bad happened. So maybe you keep the lock and fly over it again... or even K-turn through it a few times in succession... and don’t forget that you ignore it while you shoot through it, but get defensive bonuses from it when you get shot at through it... and at some point you start laughing maniacally because this little 2-point upgrade turned your slippery little 4-LOM into an even slipperier beast.

On 7/1/2019 at 2:49 PM, Vectivus333 said:

Picked  up a G-1A  rec  ent  ly

Happy G-1A’ing! I loved the big ugly truck so much, I bought two!

As for wingmates: I’ve enjoyed flying an all-3s list with Zuckuss in the other G-1A, Seevor in the MG TIE, and... “something” in a 4th ship. I’ve done the Outer Rim Escape Pod with Tac Officer and found that pretty good, though that was pre-points adjustment. I’ve also done Manaroo with IG-88D as a support ship handing out 2 Calcs per turn; I think she needs a little something more, but I haven’t found it yet. Similarly, if I’m honest, I don’t know what to put on Zuckuss; I’ve tried a couple things, but it seems like he bloats fast and lacks 4-LOM’s crazy unpredictability.

Best of fortune!

On 7/2/2019 at 6:14 AM, kempokid said:

This is one I’ve always enjoyed since 2.0 came out. Though with Hate’s increase I’d likely want 0-0-0 on Lando over it and just run Asajj with no upgrades.

Lando, 4-LOM, Asajj

(49) Lando Calrissian [Customized YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(6) Lando's Millennium Falcon
Points: 55

(49) 4-LOM [G-1A Starfighter]
(2) Mist Hunter
(0) Jamming Beam
(10) Advanced Sensors
Points: 61

(74) Asajj Ventress [Lancer-class Pursuit Craft]
(9) Hate
Points: 83

Total points: 199

Looks interesting. Now that the lancer title is cheaper, would you consider that on Asajj? Should work nicely since Asajj can shoot first in this list

4 hours ago, flooze said:

Looks interesting. Now that the lancer title is cheaper, would you consider that on Asajj? Should work nicely since Asajj can shoot first in this list

Possibly, yeah, and might be fun to have Ketsu crew along for the ride:

Lando, 4-LOM, Asajj

(49) Lando Calrissian [Customized YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(6) Lando's Millennium Falcon
Points: 55

(49) 4-LOM [G-1A Starfighter]
(2) Mist Hunter
(0) Jamming Beam
(10) Advanced Sensors
Points: 61

(74) Asajj Ventress [Lancer-class Pursuit Craft]
(3) Shadow Caster
(5) Ketsu Onyo
Points: 82

Total points: 198

20 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

Predator and HLC don't get along, so I'd for sure be snipping one of them off LOM! Otherwise looks decent

Why don't get they get along, out of curiosity? I'd figured there was good synergy there, as they both need a bullseye to pull off; so it's just a matter of good flying, yeah?

10 hours ago, CoffeeMinion said:

Happy G-1A’ing! I loved the big ugly truck so much, I bought two!

As for wingmates: I’ve enjoyed flying an all-3s list with Zuckuss in the other G-1A, Seevor in the MG TIE, and... “something” in a 4th ship. I’ve done the Outer Rim Escape Pod with Tac Officer and found that pretty good, though that was pre-points adjustment. I’ve also done Manaroo with IG-88D as a support ship handing out 2 Calcs per turn; I think she needs a little something more, but I haven’t found it yet. Similarly, if I’m honest, I don’t know what to put on Zuckuss; I’ve tried a couple things, but it seems like he bloats fast and lacks 4-LOM’s crazy unpredictability.

Best of fortune! 

Hey thanks! I've already had fun with it in Fly Casual, so I think it's gonna be a blast to play on the board; and for the record, I agree that the title is prettymuch a must-have, from what I can see. That white barrel roll for 2 measly points is a steal.

Great convo, folks. Making me think that a Lancer should be my next pick-up.

5 hours ago, Vectivus333 said:

Why don't get they get along, out of curiosity? I'd figured there was good synergy there, as they both need a bullseye to pull off; so it's just a matter of good flying, yeah?

HLC is a secondary weapon, and Predator is only primary.

I played a Genesis Red, Palob, 4-lom and Pioneer list before the first points adjustment and had a lot of fun with it. It totally destroyed aces, as 4-lom had static discharge vanes I was able to ion whisper, block and stress soontir... too bad it’s now over 220p 😂 ...

title on 4-Lom is for the barrel roll and the cannon slot is really only for when you run IG88s and want some consistency through the list.

4-lom is great with advanced sensors and 0-0-0, use the new auto blaster on 4lom when it's out only 2 pts.

4-LOM loaded with sensors, title and crew seems pricey on pts. thats quite a bit of pts to have on a one agility ship, even one as durable as this. 4-LOM does good work and that stress giving is the best in the game for dishing stress.

ive been trying to get 4 good scum ships into a single list. running an escape shuttle wout TO seems the way to go and then rounding out the list with Old Teroch and Talonbane?