On 7/2/2019 at 5:10 PM, kris40k said:

Speaking of WarmaHordes, they have a good way of settling the debate:

Every model has a standard volume it takes up related to the its base size ( p.37 of the rules ). If there is any disagreement about LOS, you have a standard you can measure to.

This does mean that some parts of the model that are visible due to where they are positioned are not actually target-able (like if you stretch out the arms of a model to the sides), but it ends the argument of modeling for advantage. Everyone is a cylinder, period.

Infinity does the same thing.

46 minutes ago, costi said:

Infinity does the same thing.

40k, WFB and SW d6 used to do this too. Targeting the sculpt is new fangled game design.

Kill Team has LOS rules that say weapons don't count, you have to see a body part. I've found this to work well and have less feel bads about weapons and LOS.