Republic List - Dedicated?

By j_man_04, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I’ve been using this list since the Republic came out and it’s done well. But I’m wondering if I should mix it up and try out Dedicated.

Original List:

(50) "Wolffe" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(3) Clone Commander Cody
Points: 53

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(18) Delta-7B
Points: 63

Total points: 200

New Idea:

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(18) Delta-7B
Points: 63

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

Total points: 199

I think partially the motivation behind the points drop on both Dedicated and SSV and BSP is so that you now sort of staple Dedicated to them. It was designed as a faction flavor sort of thing and then they priced it out of use. Especially for the torrents. Any place in a list I have a naked BSP or SSV now becomes a Dedicated BSP or SSV although things like Marksmanship and Crack Shot will also find their way in.

9 minutes ago, Frimmel said:

I think partially the motivation behind the points drop on both Dedicated and SSV and BSP is so that you now sort of staple Dedicated to them. It was designed as a faction flavor sort of thing and then they priced it out of use. Especially for the torrents. Any place in a list I have a naked BSP or SSV now becomes a Dedicated BSP or SSV although things like Marksmanship and Crack Shot will also find their way in.

I really like making the faction-specific cards interesting/playable with the update.

I'm just not sure yet if it's worth over the generics or fitting it a named pilot like Wollfe, who works really well with Mace Windu because of the potential to dish out a Strain.

What I like about the i3 pilots carrying dedicated is, hopefully they'll have already been targeted/shot at, so adding a strain to protect Mace isn't that big of a drawback.

I dropped Dedicated from lists largely because of the cost. I generally liked it especially when I was outnumbering my opponent and the Dedicated ship wasn't going to be shot at.

3 hours ago, kempokid said:

New Idea:

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(18) Delta-7B
Points: 63

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

Total points: 199

I actually built a very similar list, but I upgraded the third arc to Sinker and put in Obi-Wan with CLT (his ability lets him to take full advantage of CLT without any real drawback as long as he focuses). Sinker gives everybody else rerolls, and the other arcs can help Obi-Wan or Sinker survive longer.

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(54) “Sinker” [ARC-170 Starfighter]

Points: 54

(47) Obi-Wan Kenobi [Delta-7 Aethersprite]

(4) Calibrated Laser Targeting

Points: 51

Total: 199

58 minutes ago, Des Darklighter said:

I actually built a very similar list, but I upgraded the third arc to Sinker and put in Obi-Wan with CLT (his ability lets him to take full advantage of CLT without any real drawback as long as he focuses). Sinker gives everybody else rerolls, and the other arcs can help Obi-Wan or Sinker survive longer.

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(54) “Sinker” [ARC-170 Starfighter]

Points: 54

(47) Obi-Wan Kenobi [Delta-7 Aethersprite]

(4) Calibrated Laser Targeting

Points: 51

Total: 199

That looks really good. I think it's more of a flavor thing between most of the Jedi.

I like Mace because Force regen is super valuable. Also I just like having four super hard hitters. Not that Obi-Wan can't be, but I still find the bullseye and focus token he has to worry about too limiting (read: I'm not skilled enough for it).

I think the best way to run this upgrade is to go full out and be..... Dedicated (see what I did there ;] )

Sinkers Dedicated Blues

(54) "Sinker" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 54

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

Total points: 199

6 ships with reroll we know does well because of the inferno squad. They are all I3 which helps against other (non inferno) swarms. 9 health and dedicated makes it pretty hard for a opponent to initiate kill sinker or 5 health blues. I could definitely see this becoming a list that does well (if people want to buy 3 core sets 😬).

I've got two Dedicated lists in my HangarBayNext right now.

First is an adaptation of my 4 ARC list. Your Own Private Thermopylae:

  • Sinker (-) 54
  • Jag (-) 48
  • Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated) 47
  • Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated, Clone Commander Cody) 50

Dedicated mainly just fills in the points from the price decreases. Seems like it might be useful in messing with target priorities. Seems better than just Crack Shot, and I don't really want to give up on the all Init 3, since these medium base ships can easily start tripping over themselves.

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The second is perhaps a little wild. Seventh Fleet Anakin:

  • Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated, Seventh Fleet Gunner, R2 Astromech) 59
  • Squad Seven Veteran (Dedicated, Seventh Fleet Gunner, R2 Astromech) 59
  • Anakin Skywalker (Brilliant Evasion, R2 Astromech, Calibrated Laser Targeting) 76

Seventh Fleet Gunner has potential cool interactions with CLT. With the eye result from CLT added after Seventh Fleet Gunner, you'll be able to trick the "up to 4 dice" limit on 7FG. Dedicated might not always be in range, but granting rerolls feels like it'll be more effective on a 3 agility than 2 agility ship, and Brilliant Evasion goes up in value with a reroll. R2 is on the ARCs to double-up on disarm tokens.

4 hours ago, K13R4N said:

(if people want to buy 3 core sets 😬).

I mean, I do kinda want a 5th Jedi for 5 Knights with CLT...

5 hours ago, K13R4N said:

I think the best way to run this upgrade is to go full out and be..... Dedicated (see what I did there ;] )

Sinkers Dedicated Blues

(54) "Sinker" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 54

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

Total points: 199

6 ships with reroll we know does well because of the inferno squad. They are all I3 which helps against other (non inferno) swarms. 9 health and dedicated makes it pretty hard for a opponent to initiate kill sinker or 5 health blues. I could definitely see this becoming a list that does well (if people want to buy 3 core sets 😬).

This list could be a nightmare for your opponent if your green dice are even just slightly above average. Good job 👍

8 hours ago, K13R4N said:

I think the best way to run this upgrade is to go full out and be..... Dedicated (see what I did there ;] )

Sinkers Dedicated Blues

(54) "Sinker" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 54

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

(28) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 29

Total points: 199

6 ships with reroll we know does well because of the inferno squad. They are all I3 which helps against other (non inferno) swarms. 9 health and dedicated makes it pretty hard for a opponent to initiate kill sinker or 5 health blues. I could definitely see this becoming a list that does well (if people want to buy 3 core sets 😬).

Take Sinker off of the board then you have 5 bumbling torrents. Maybe replace two torrents with another ARC or jedi sprite.

1 hour ago, pakirby said:

Take Sinker off of the board then you have 5 bumbling torrents. Maybe replace two torrents with another ARC or jedi sprite.

Sinker should last abit longer with defensive rerolls, but even when he is gone I'd think it would take a while for your opponent to chew through 25 more health and 2 agility with defensive rerolls.

Out of curiosity, why do you say the 2 extra torrents need swapping? Is the 1 3 dice attack better then more health, 2 2 dice attacks and 1 more dedicated?

I am in no position to say anything as I haven't tried either but from paper X wing is usually better with repetition in lots of lists because of the flying becomes easier as everyone has the same dial/ base size and abilities.

5 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I mean, I do kinda want a 5th Jedi for 5 Knights with CLT...

😬😬 we all know that list won't be worth it ......but the temptation is strong with this one

What about something like this:

Obi-Wan Kenobi (47)
Delta-7B (19)

Ship total: 66 Half Points: 33 Threshold: 3

Luminara Unduli (43)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (3)

Ship total: 46 Half Points: 23 Threshold: 2

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 3

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 3


Total: 199

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Ultimately your end game is Obi. Lumi and the blues help keep everything/Obi alive to make it to end game.

I ran 7b lumi, 7b heightened perception mace and 3 gold's before the points change and it was fun and worked decently. But with Obi so much cheaper he could be a better finisher at i5.

I've also never played with dedicated before either but it seems interesting to help keep things alive and really mess with target priority.

Thoughts?

Edited by WileECoyote36
On 6/27/2019 at 11:20 AM, kempokid said:

I’ve been using this list since the Republic came out and it’s done well. But I’m wondering if I should mix it up and try out Dedicated.

Original List:

(50) "Wolffe" [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(3) Clone Commander Cody
Points: 53

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(18) Delta-7B
Points: 63

Total points: 200

New Idea:

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(46) Squad Seven Veteran [ARC-170 Starfighter]
(1) Dedicated
Points: 47

(45) Mace Windu [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(18) Delta-7B
Points: 63

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

Total points: 199

I got one game in with this yesterday, and ended up only using Dedicated a couple of times. To be fair, I could have used it in another instance or two, but the first two times I used it, the reroll turned out blank. So I ended up taking a strain for nothing.

I think it's something that may require more than two ships with it to be super effective. It's a tough call to make after one game, but I'll probably go back to Mace/Wollfe and the two 104ths for the time being.

Here's one (Wan?) I want to try.

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)
Proton Rockets (7)

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)
Proton Rockets (7)

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)
Proton Rockets (7)

Blue Squadron Protector (28)
Dedicated (1)
Proton Rockets (7)

Obi-Wan Kenobi (47)
R4 Astromech (2)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (4)
Total: 197

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