I and my local Descent group have been very interested in giving this game a spin but I've been holding off on buying it due to hearing that there is a new revised rulebook getting ready to be released for it. Is there any idea yet when the new rules will be released?

Very soon, the mail order place I use has it on the imminent releases list and their usually very good about this kind of thing, meaning FFG is most likely confidant about a release date to say to vendors "Where trying for XX/XX/XXXX, but don't hold us to it", but they don't have it in from the printers yet so aren't going to post a release date unless something unforeseen comes up.

Note: this is just a educated guess based on past experience with this individual Vendor.

Also i doubt that the copies you can get will include this book, so I would buy it and jut download the new book when it is out so at least you can have it and punch the pieces and maybe still play it with the old rules. the game is not broken, it is a fine game.

But the new book wont be bundled with the new box game for a while I imagine.

WarRealm said:

I bet it won't be until the core set is OOP. All I hope is that they will take the advantage of this situation and release a really improved core set then !

just go buy it, as said a lot before, there was and is nothing wrong with the old rules, it just you need to read around the translation sometimes,

many are playing and implementing the new rules that are found free here(taster) with no prob at all, but theres nothing stopping you using the old ones, most of us have no problem with them

WarRealm said:

Hopefully it is sooner rather then later, won't be buying the board game until it includes the new rules.

Has Fantasy Flight Games said anything on this yet?

dont know why not, you can get the game with at least the cost of thr download off, then play it, as you have heard the old rules are ok, and at least you have the game

darknight said:

And I can get the game at the same price as it is now with the revised book in it once the put it in the box. Why would I want to pay Extra? IMO this should have been a free download. Holding off, I am not going to support buying something I feel I should not be paying for.

you may have a long wait then, most lgs wont re stock until the old ones have gone, same i would say for ffg

Np I'm waiting too for that. Not to mention by then more regarding the games future will be announced.

darknight said:

Well if it never happens, I never buy.

Dragnmoon said:

Actually, this logic won't necessarily hold true. First off, it might be months, if not years, before existing stock at your local gaming store runs out (it depends on how fast the game moves in your area, obviously.) By the time that stock runs out and a new print run is announced, processed and sent out to stores, FFG may well have bumped up the price due to inflation, which means the local stores will also bump up the price to maintain their profit margins. And that's assuming they wait for inflation. Even if they started shipping box sets with the new rules tomorrow, they might just add the "download" cost to the MSRP of the new box sets.

Secondly, FFG has put at least 6 months into designing these new rules, by my count. That's 6 months of employee salaries, company resources and who knows what else that they've spent developing these new rules with absolutely no returns on investment as of yet. I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask a small download fee to recoup those expenses. If you don't want to pay it and don't feel the new rules are worth the money, then you should just buy the game as is and play with the old rules. THOSE are the rules the game was originally designed for. THOSE are the rules whose cost is currently included in the price of the base game. And it's not like those rules are broken or anything; they work just fine. FFG is changing them because they can , not because they need to. Hell, I'm sure there are some people out there who will ultimately decide they like the old rules better anyway and if you end up being one of them you'd by gypping yourself of a copy of THOSE rules by insisting on waiting for the new ones.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do here. If you want to wait until you're sure the new rules are in the box before buying the game, that's your choice. For your sake I sincerely hope FFG or your local game store has plans to put a sticker on the new boxes that identifies them as having the new rules, otherwise you won't know for sure until you open it. It's entirely possible that a copy of the old rules game could collect dust on the shelves for years before it finally gets bought.

I remember once finding a copy of the first edition "D&D board game" set at Toys R Us a couple of years after the second edition has been released, and several years after the first edition had officially been out of print. Of course, in my case that was a good thing because the first edition had a different selection of minis that I really wanted. My point is that things which are sold on store shelves are only "new" in the sense that they haven't been used, they aren't necessarily "new" in the sense that they were recently produced. Unless they have an expiry date, of course, which I'm pretty sure board games don't. =)

very true steve o, the thing is if you like the game just buy it, its a great game, you may as a lot do just find the rules are cool and you dont need/want the new ones, if you do want them its only like £5, but its still the great game you bought first