• Star Viper x2
• Kihraxz x2
• Z95's Headhunters x6

Extra option:

• Shadowcaster (no Black Sun paintjob but Ketsu was Black Sun for a long time, not sure the other pilots)

I don't know how much fun it is but looking at my collection with the same eye I'd came up with:

Kihraxz Fighter - Black Sun Ace - 47
Black Sun Ace - (42)
Cluster Missiles (5)

StarViper-class Attack Platform - Black Sun Assassin - 70
Black Sun Assassin - (48)
Outmaneuver (6)
Collision Detector (6)
•Virago (10)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Total: 198/200

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You could probably get the fourth Z-95 in there but you'd have to give up all the pilots being "Black Sun" pilots or give up all the upgrades which are 27 points.

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 27
Black Sun Soldier - (27)

Kihraxz Fighter - Black Sun Ace - 42
Black Sun Ace - (42)

StarViper-class Attack Platform - Black Sun Assassin - 48
Black Sun Assassin - (48)

Total: 198/200

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Nice! I didn't thought of making the pilots "black sun" members, but that is full thematic. Thank you.

What If I use the models, but any legal pilot available?

Don't know about Talonbane's affiliation, but guri is black sun

Talonbane Cobra (50)
Predator (2)

Guri (63)
Predator (2)
Advanced Sensors (10)
Afterburners (6)

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Intimidation (3)

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Intimidation (3)
Total: 193

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4 minutes ago, flooze said:

Don't know about Talonbane's affiliation, but guri is black sun

Just happens that it's seems he is Black Sun ace indeed: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Talonbane_Cobra

5 minutes ago, LUZ_TAK said:

Nice! I didn't thought of making the pilots "black sun" members, but that is full thematic. Thank you.

What If I use the models, but any legal pilot available?

You're on your own there. I just had those two lists and the one below already in my saved lists. I have one with only two Z-95 but they get Proton Rockets and the other ships get shield upgrades. Was getting around to flying one of them and then Clone Wars factions came out.

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 34
Black Sun Soldier - (27)
Proton Rockets (7)

Z-95-AF4 Headhunter - Black Sun Soldier - 34
Black Sun Soldier - (27)
Proton Rockets (7)

StarViper-class Attack Platform - Black Sun Assassin - 78
Black Sun Assassin - (48)
Outmaneuver (6)
Collision Detector (6)
Shield Upgrade (8)
•Virago (10)

Kihraxz Fighter - Black Sun Ace - 53
Black Sun Ace - (42)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Shield Upgrade (6)

Total: 199/200

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Shouldn't just get wiped but you'll likely have your work cut out for you.

Tks Frimmel. I really like that there is the option to fly it "full generics" or to include "named aces" and still be within the Black Sun theme.

Guri (63)
Advanced Sensors (10)

Ship total: 73 Half Points: 37 Threshold: 3

Black Sun Ace (42)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 43 Half Points: 22 Threshold: 3

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 28 Half Points: 14 Threshold: 2

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 28 Half Points: 14 Threshold: 2

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Crack Shot (1)

Ship total: 28 Half Points: 14 Threshold: 2


Total: 200

Not super optimal as Guri does like a bid but certainly thematic and Fun.

Bonus points for using a Guns for hire Khiraxz with the black sun paint scheme.

Just now, Scum4Life said:

Bonus points for using a Guns for hire Khiraxz with the black sun paint scheme.

It's exactly my plan

Or if you don't need the pilot's to say Black Sun xxxx, try...

Guri (63)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (10)
Afterburners (6)

Ship total: 85 Half Points: 43 Threshold: 3

Talonbane Cobra (50)
Fearless (3)
Contraband Cybernetics (5)
Afterburners (6)

Ship total: 64 Half Points: 32 Threshold: 3

Binayre Pirate (24)
Ship total: 24 Half Points: 12 Threshold: 2

Binayre Pirate (24)
Ship total: 24 Half Points: 12 Threshold: 2


Total: 197

I can only approve all of the above. Nice options to have and so much theme.

6 minutes ago, Cuz05 said:

I can only approve all of the above. Nice options to have and so much theme.

Word

I've updated my "Black Sun Squadron". So far with no named pilots...

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Outmaneuver (6)
Advanced Sensors (10)

Ship total: 64 Half Points: 32 Threshold: 3

Black Sun Ace (41)
Ship total: 41 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 3

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Expert Handling (2)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Expert Handling (2)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2

Black Sun Soldier (27)
Expert Handling (2)

Ship total: 29 Half Points: 15 Threshold: 2


Total: 192

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Guri is so expensive now... I could get Talonbane cobra and be at 201 pts... perhaps removing expert handling from the Z95s...

Thinking about flying this black sun list on a small tourney tomorrow... Not sure yet

Ketsu Onyo (70)
Fearless (3)
Maul (12)
Shadow Caster (3)

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Predator (2)
Collision Detector (6)

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Predator (2)
Collision Detector (6)
Total: 200

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Flew the list above, it is fun although I think it is not super competitive (maybe b-tier range).

I was sceptical about the collision detectors, but in all of the three games I used the of the four charges.

Ketsu in range 1 is just brutal and a huge enabler. But she is like a candle - once lit she burns down quite fast. Use Perceptive copilot before, but Maul has the benefit of modifications even after a k-turn.

Coordinating the engagement is key, so that when Ketsu can steal a green die all three ships can focus the weakened target.

Super simple with this list:

Black Sun

(27) Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter]
Points: 27

(27) Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter]
Points: 27

(48) Black Sun Assassin [StarViper-class Attack Platform]
Points: 48

(48) Black Sun Assassin [StarViper-class Attack Platform]
Points: 48

(50) Talonbane Cobra [Kihraxz Fighter]
Points: 50

Total points: 200

I am thinking about trying to replicate a republic list I like as Scum. The ships I used with the republic were:

Delta 7B Anakin

Wolfee in Arc 170

2x - Torrents

If i were to go with a black sun theme for Scum I was thinking:

Guri - starviper

Talonbane - Kihraxz

2x - Z95 black sun soldiers

thoughts on upgrades for these ships?

14 hours ago, EvilZealot said:

thoughts on upgrades for these ships?

(50) Talonbane Cobra [Kihraxz Fighter] (6) Afterburners (3) Fearless Points: 59

(27) Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] Points: 27

(27) Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] Points: 27

(64) Guri [StarViper-class Attack Platform] (10) Advanced Sensors (2) Predator Points: 76

Total points: 189

Seems not bad

My thematic take on this would be

Guri [StarViper-class Attack Platform] (64), Crack shot (1): 65

Talonbane Cobra [Kihraxz Fighter] (50), Crack shot (1): 51

Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (27), Crack shot (1): 28

Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (27), Crack shot (1): 28

Black Sun Soldier [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (27), Crack shot (1): 28

Total points: 200

I like that both Guri and Talonbane are Init 5. Of cause a bit would be nice, but I rather have the five crack shots.
Another option could be:

Guri [StarViper-class Attack Platform] (64), Advanced Sensors (10), Crack shot (1): 75

Talonbane Cobra [Kihraxz Fighter] (50), Crack shot (1): 51

Binayre Pirate [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (24): 24

Binayre Pirate [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (24): 24

Binayre Pirate [Z-95-AF4 Headhunter] (24): 24

Total points: 198

All of these suggestions are awesome. Is there anything to using the Z-95's with some type of missile?

personally I have the best luck when i follow the rule of three with z95s. 3 homing missiles, 3 man formation, starting opposite corner of the rest of the list. Ive also found 2 z95s with ion pulse to be a great bully pair for isolating a single ship while the rest of your list deals with the important things.

Black Sun named pilots are Talonbane Cobra, Prince Xizor, Guri, and Ketsu Onyo, plus any non-limited pilot with "Black Sun" in their name

On 8/15/2019 at 8:09 AM, Magnus Grendel said:

Black Sun named pilots are Talonbane Cobra, Prince Xizor, Guri, and Ketsu Onyo, plus any non-limited pilot with "Black Sun" in their name

Awesome! Txs for the clarification.

Ketsu Onyo (70)
Fearless (3)
Maul (12)
Shadow Caster (3)

Ship total: 88 Half Points: 44 Threshold: 5

Black Sun Assassin (48)
Predator (2)
Advanced Sensors (10)

Ship total: 60 Half Points: 30 Threshold: 3

Talonbane Cobra (50)
Predator (2)

Ship total: 52 Half Points: 26 Threshold: 3


Total: 200

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this would be pretty solid list. Guri is better but without a bid id go with BSA.

Actually Ketsu, Talonbane and Guri could be Top Tier competitive squad.

Didn't know it's Black Sun themed. Nice.