new rule...

force user.

This sqn can spend a token to counter with all its AS dice

I mean, if we're making things up, make Wedge roll 12 blue dice to represent all 13 members of Rogue Squadron, and give him 12 health too.

I read it in a book once so I want it.

5 hours ago, geek19 said:

Scatter ace Vader? No. Just... Just no.

Vader deserves to be a better unit than he is. So much better.

Definitely needs to lose escort if nothing else.

19 minutes ago, ISD Avenger said:

Vader deserves to be a better unit than he is. So much better.

Definitely needs to lose escort if nothing else.

I always thought it was weird he got escort himself. I always thought him granting escort made more sense...

The issue isn't whether Vader should get scatter per se. It's that he's Vader and he's not played as a squadron circa Wave 7. It would be great if FFG fixed him.

Maybe that's issue Vader v2.0 and VSD v2.0 and etc, which are all new kits with slight tweaked models and all new cards so they can charge us all the monies for a newly balanced game. Maybe that would work?

Vader: Lose Escort, gain Rogue.

Ive had much sucess with Vader, Dengar, Mauler, Fel. Vader hits 75% (stat check?) of the time on the counter.

Vader just doesn’t feel like Vader to me. He should be the best fighter unit bar none & costed appropriately. And he needs stats, keywords & a special ability to reflect his thematic traits.

After all he has-

1. The innate piloting skill arguably beyond Wedge, Fel or Maarek.

2. Decades of combat experience.

3. Force abilities to augment it all.

Vader, out of all the unique squadrons, would probably be best suited to a scatter defense token reflecting his natural and force driven abilities and as I mentioned above, he should drop escort and gain rogue. That would put him in the 25 point range.

You could argue that Vader could also have a natural counter 1 or 2 driving him to 27-28 points, without breaking the game balance, again due to his force enhanced reflexes.

All aces with a scatter token have 3 or 4 hull. The only exception is IG-88 (and twin), but he only got 1 scatter token, no brace.

I think there is a reason why Vader didn't come with Scatter and Brace and 5 hull.

Remove Escort, remove his current ability

Give him Grit

New ability:
"Friendly squadrons with Swarm at distance one have Escort.

While attacking, you may choose a friendly squadron with Escort at range 1 to suffer 1 damage to change a die to a face with a Hit icon."

Same price? (similar at the very least)

4 hours ago, Darth Sanguis said:

Remove Escort, remove his current ability

Give him Grit

New ability:
"Friendly squadrons with Swarm at distance one have Escort.

While attacking, you may choose a friendly squadron with Escort at range 1 to suffer 1 damage to change a die to a face with a Hit icon."

Same price? (similar at the very least)

That feels right to me, thematically at least. It'd be kind of cool, though probably too onerous, if he synergized with Black Squadron. First guess is add Counter 1 to Black Squadron, but really your Vader version makes me want to rethink Black Squadron entirely!

My main issue with Vader as the "Best pilot in the Galaxy" is essentially limited by the two times I've seen him fly (as I don't have comic access).

Basically, I get to see EpIV and "Shoots Ducks in a Trench" that are doing their best to NOT shoot back... So no big deal there...

And then, in Rebels, you get "Solo's Phoenix Squadron and Kills a Pelta."

He certainly needs an Update. And I'd like an idea where he's a difficult choice between Admiral, Crew, Boarding Team and Squadron - because that should be a tough choice to make... But there's a certain point where the additon of synergy quickly outstrips points, and I don't envy Developers having to work that something out.

Don't forget Episode 1...

1 minute ago, Formynder4 said:

Don't forget Episode 1...

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Darth Vader, and not Anakin Skywalker here...

Because Anakin Skywalker... Is. Dead.

Spoiler Alerrrrrt!

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

My main issue with Vader as the "Best pilot in the Galaxy" is essentially limited by the two times I've seen him fly (as I don't have comic access).

He also fought three squadrons of X-wings alone over Vrogas Vas, destroying two of them (Luke Skywalker was present and rammed him before the dogfight could conclude, causing both of their fighters to crash.)

Which is interesting, as the Vader we have could take on 2 basic x squads before having a shot at a dedicated Luke Squadron...

I cancelled my preorder.

I’m not saying I won’t order it again at some point...so it’s a meaningless gesture perhaps, but anyway, that’s £ to spend on other hobbies with actual product support.

I had been waiting just as long for the next memoir 44 expansion, which also just came out, but with that I not only cancelled my preorder, I’ve committed to not buy anymore Memoir 44 at all - it’s now X-Wing 1.0 and Imperial Assault to me: a complete game I don’t need to feel compelled to keep spending money on.

Armada is dangerously close to joining that list.

I can see why ppl are getting frustrated, a further update would be nice.

We're getting an official Armada stream next Tuesday, so might get a preview article this week, or a follow-up one next week. A couple of weeks after that is Gencon, which should involve some Armada announcements or updates.

I’m getting pretty close to the end of my rope as well. I have not cancelled my preorder because I won’t get the discount. It better be released by the end of August. Would an update on the status of this thing really hurt ffg? I mean at some point, aren’t they spitting in their customers’ faces by not keeping us informed.

On the bright side, if they delay till November those of us that didn't preorder may get a helluva black friday deal lol

At this point I’m keeping my pre-order for two reasons: first, I don’t want to find out that only preorders will be filled and second, I worry that non-preordered pieces could see a price increase due to trade issues with China.

I was at the local store (last one with Armada) today and they were pulling what little they had off the shelf. I asked and they said that as far as they are concerned it, the card game, and Imperial Assault are dead games and they are not going to stock them anymore. As far as Armarda (I never played any of the other games) it was the almost two years without stuff to sell, so why try and keep old stuff in for a game when the company does not support it.