I assume they will port right over to The Clone Wars expansion. I hope we ge to see Attichitcuk, Chewie’s father.

Who will be the first to share their Kashyyyk terrain off? 😊

40 minutes ago, Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun said:

I assume they will port right over to The Clone Wars expansion. I hope we ge to see Attichitcuk, Chewie’s father.

Who will be the first to share their Kashyyyk terrain off? 😊

I wouldn't assume anything. My understanding from their Clone Wars reveal was that they were avoiding overlap, putting units in the faction that FFG felt best suited, rather than having the same unit in multiple factions.
This doesn't mean they WON'T, but I wouldn't count on it, especially not until after FFG is done releasing new units. Porting over Wookies means they don't ge to sell a new unit to those of us who already own the Wookies.

Really really doubt that Chewie will ever show up in the republic roster just because he is such an icon for the rebelion. I could see them some day doing a generic squad of wookies for the republic though.

I wouldn't be surprised if a Clone Wars wookie hero and/or squad is sold which allows you to recruit Chewie and/or the rebel wookies. But I doubt they'll just let people use old units all willy-nilly with clones and such.

21 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

[...]My understanding from their Clone Wars reveal was that they were avoiding overlap, putting units in the faction that FFG felt best suited, rather than having the same unit in multiple factions.

What I recall them saying was that they were absolutely open to (I read as planning to) releasing the same unit (including unique like named characters) with different sub-titles that would allow them to have different stats. The example he gave was Luke Skywalker "Hero of the Rebellion".

To me this implies a distinct possibility of not just Luke Skywalker "Impulsive Farmboy", Luke Skywalker, "Short for a Stormtrooper", both of which could be Rebel faction, but also, Luke Skywalker "Crazy Old Hermit" assigned to the Resistance faction.

They also opined on multi faction units, saying those were less common, but still also nodding towards the inevitable Hondo (somewhere HondoScout is cheering and MuttonChopScout is cursing).

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This doesn't mean they WON'T, but I wouldn't count on it, especially not until after FFG is done releasing new units. Porting over Wookies means they don't ge to sell a new unit to those of us who already own the Wookies.

Counter point is that they can sell Republic Wookies to people who already have Rebellion Wookies because we'll want the cards for Republic Wookies, and re-use the molds saving time and development money.

I wouldn’t assume anything. However, if they run low on ideas I could easily see them eventually doing it. I just have no reason to believe it is imminent.

There are many, many, many other things they can do with the Republic first - multiple Clone variants, Loads of Jedi for named heroes as well as named clones like Rex, Naboo security forces, Gungans, Mon Calamari forces from the cartoon series, etc.

I suspect they won’t overlap directly until they have to. They hinted that ATRTs were not going to be republic faction any time soon, despite being the only faction using them in on screen canon (not a video game somewhere)

1 hour ago, CaptainRocket said:

What I recall them saying was that they were absolutely open to (I read as planning to) releasing the same unit (including unique like named characters) with different sub-titles that would allow them to have different stats. The example he gave was Luke Skywalker "Hero of the Rebellion".

To me this implies a distinct possibility of not just Luke Skywalker "Impulsive Farmboy", Luke Skywalker, "Short for a Stormtrooper", both of which could be Rebel faction, but also, Luke Skywalker "Crazy Old Hermit" assigned to the Resistance faction.

They also opined on multi faction units, saying those were less common, but still also nodding towards the inevitable Hondo (somewhere HondoScout is cheering and MuttonChopScout is cursing).

Counter point is that they can sell Republic Wookies to people who already have Rebellion Wookies because we'll want the cards for Republic Wookies, and re-use the molds saving time and development money.

If they rename the character and release a new model (which "has" to be used to represent that version of the character), then in my opinion that is actually a different unit, especially if the stats are different in some way. I view this as significantly more likely than just re-releasing the Rebel Wookies, especially as the Republic Wookies in that clip are predominately armed very differently than the Rebel Wookie models, with Kashyyyk long-guns and Wookie Slug Throwers. Honestly, all they really need to model is a different set of arms, and with the switch to hard plastic sprues for all units they have to redo the already existing Wookie unit anyway, so it would be a good opportunity to make that switchover. Both kits could even have the same torso bits, with different arms included based upon which box was purchased. That's not to say that they don't put unit cards allowing BOTH to be played in the other faction in a later card package though, depending on what Disney OK's. Heck even a combined box that can be used to create either is possible, but might be unlikely given FFG's current design of the models in the unit boxes (only what you need and nothing truly spare).

I agree that new units like Luke Skywalker "Last Jedi" is a distinct possibility, modeled in his RoTJ outfit, with the expectation that the included model is used to avoid confusing your opponent as to which subtitled Luke Skywalker is being used (for official events at least I'd expect). Arguably Vader/Anakin is likely to be the first "cross-faction" character.

Having rewatched the relevant section of the Adepticon panel (Found here: https://youtu.be/Xxo9cZDwWRo?t=2376) I found that the comment pertains to "neutral mercenaries" specifically, so Republic Chewbacca is possible, as is Republic Wookies. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a new unit rather than just a new card though. However, didn't FFG take Boba Fett away from the Empire in V2 of X-wing? Not saying they won't put him back later, just trying to use a different miniatures game as some kind of indication of likely developmental choices.

Regardless, I still wouldn't expect it "faction swap cards" soon though, since FFG would rather people bought any new Special Forces units (Arc Troopers, Commandos, etc) rather than used a unit they already own.

25 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Having rewatched the relevant section of the Adepticon panel (Found here: https://youtu.be/Xxo9cZDwWRo?t=2376) I found that the comment pertains to "neutral mercenaries" specifically, so Republic Chewbacca is possible, as is Republic Wookies. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a new unit rather than just a new card though. However, didn't FFG take Boba Fett away from the Empire in V2 of X-wing? Not saying they won't put him back later, just trying to use a different miniatures game as some kind of indication of likely developmental choices.

Regardless, I still wouldn't expect it "faction swap cards" soon though, since FFG would rather people bought any new Special Forces units (Arc Troopers, Commandos, etc) rather than used a unit they already own.

In X-wing 2.0, Empire lost Boba. I doubt they’ll bring him back.

I do think from a Legion perspective they’ll be adding new units before they reissue anything.

I am also a little sad if that reference is indeed to neutral units and that we won’t be seeing those.

Yeah, I totally agree it would be likely they release a new box with new cards and stats!

But I also think it's very likely we will see Republic era Wookies~

I sort of took their comments to mean they would release a version of units that best suited their faction. For instance changing the wookies to work with clones better, or having Sidious not be the same as palpatine, but tuned to provide more function for the Droids. We shall see soon enough.

1 hour ago, crx3800 said:

I sort of took their comments to mean they would release a version of units that best suited their faction. For instance changing the wookies to work with clones better, or having Sidious not be the same as palpatine, but tuned to provide more function for the Droids. We shall see soon enough.

That was my understanding as well. That said, I would love if FFG did what they did with the Most Wanted expansion in X-Wing and provided cards for some existing models that allowed them to play in a different faction with different abilities. It would give more options immediately for the new factions. I don't believe it will happen, but it would be great.

8 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

In X-wing 2.0, Empire lost Boba. I doubt they’ll bring him back.

I do think from a Legion perspective they’ll be adding new units before they reissue anything.

I am also a little sad if that reference is indeed to neutral units and that we won’t be seeing those.

To be fair, I believe the exact quote is "for the foreseeable future" which isn't the same as "never." The thing is, outside of Hondo, there really isn't a single unit that in canon (that I know of that) that worked with all four of the announced factions unchanged. The closest I can think of is the Mandalorians (who have worked with every faction except Republic, but additionally the Shadow Collective I think?) Even there, what probably ends up happening is three or more units with different unit upgrades (named Specialists/Heavies for instance) and possibly slightly different rules (or at the very least different names). Definitely different models between the Mandalorians and the Imperial Super Commandos.

Personally, I don't really like truly neutral units, since they dilute the individual flavour of each army unless additional limitations are placed on taking neutral units vs faction units, which adds complexity (not necessarily a bad thing if it is fitting for the setting).

I could see the Wookie warriors polystyrene sprues re-release coming with dual faction cards and maybe some different bits.

Same with AT-RT.

2 hours ago, aniron said:

I could see the Wookie warriors polystyrene sprues re-release coming with dual faction cards and maybe some different bits.

Same with AT-RT.

That would be great.

8 hours ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Personally, I don't really like truly neutral units, since they dilute the individual flavour of each army unless additional limitations are placed on taking neutral units vs faction units, which adds complexity (not necessarily a bad thing if it is fitting for the setting).

See, that caveat is always one I expected to see with anything truly neutral. Your force organization only allows for a 2:1 faction to neutral, or some other arbitrary force definition.

I would be fine with, instead of neutral units a player controls, there be some more scenario packs where instead of terrain (or in addition to terrain), there are some neutral minis with an AI system. I still would really like seeing Tusken Raiders on the table, and they really don’t fit any of the factions. They also don’t merit a whole faction all to themselves.

Someone else may say the same but with Jawas or a rancor or any number of other things.

1 hour ago, ScummyRebel said:

See, that caveat is always one I expected to see with anything truly neutral. Your force organization only allows for a 2:1 faction to neutral, or some other arbitrary force definition.

I would be fine with, instead of neutral units a player controls, there be some more scenario packs where instead of terrain (or in addition to terrain), there are some neutral minis with an AI system. I still would really like seeing Tusken Raiders on the table, and they really don’t fit any of the factions. They also don’t merit a whole faction all to themselves.

Someone else may say the same but with Jawas or a rancor or any number of other things.

It would be interesting to include Tusken Raiders and other cool units that don't fit in a faction as a Battlefield expansion. They could be released with related deployment, condition, objective cards.

22 minutes ago, jcmonson said:

It would be interesting to include Tusken Raiders and other cool units that don't fit in a faction as a Battlefield expansion. They could be released with related deployment, condition, objective cards.

That would excite me way more than “oh hey here’s esoteric barely seen but super powerful unit XYZ”. We haven’t gotten to that point yet in Legion, but if the game keeps on going they are going to run low on GCW releases.

I can only think of about 3-4 things not yet announced for GCW that i would say “must have it”. These sorts of packs sound way cooler to me since I just play casual games anyway and don’t care about tournament format (my last game was the team 2v2 format, and before that I was playing the Operations PDFs online).

3 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

See, that caveat is always one I expected to see with anything truly neutral. Your force organization only allows for a 2:1 faction to neutral, or some other arbitrary force definition.

I would be fine with, instead of neutral units a player controls, there be some more scenario packs where instead of terrain (or in addition to terrain), there are some neutral minis with an AI system. I still would really like seeing Tusken Raiders on the table, and they really don’t fit any of the factions. They also don’t merit a whole faction all to themselves.

Someone else may say the same but with Jawas or a rancor or any number of other things.

Now that interests me. Having a Battlefield condition card of "Wild beast Attack" where an unaligned creature is on the board with some amount of automation (roll an attack die and move the model in the direction the die points, unless there is an enemy in Range 3). Or an objective called "Big Game Hunt" where you get X number of points for securing the Rancor or Krayt Dragon corpse at the end of the game, meaning you have to balance shooting the creature to kill it, and attacking your opponent. Even as just cinematic expansions like the Downed AT-ST, it would still interest me, since I hardly ever play in organized competitive events ANYWAY.

I feel like they should bring the wookies to the Republic as it would be even more fitting then as a rebel unit. During the Clone Wars era we even see the Wookies fighting in force on screen.

Would prefer it to be a completly new unit with different models, but can understand FFG saving some costs and basing them of the current sculpts

I would play an all-Tusken Raider, Jawa, or Ewok armies and have collected them for "other" Star Wars games.

A neutral / SCUM faction would be AWESOME!!!

Just now, lologrelol said:

A neutral / SCUM faction would be AWESOME!!!

I’m sure it will come someday after they start to really flesh out the Clone wars factions. I imagine it would drop about the same time as the “subfaction” concept begins to appear with second line stuff for the older factions.

On 6/16/2019 at 3:32 AM, Revanur said:

I feel like they should bring the wookies to the Republic as it would be even more fitting then as a rebel unit. During the Clone Wars era we even see the Wookies fighting in force on screen.

We saw them fighting in force for the rebels*, fully licensed by LFL, on our tabletops, nearly a decade before the first prequel. In the specific context of tabletop wargame, there is nowhere more fitting for them than the rebellion, though the Clone Wars may be no less fitting. I personally think they should make the current wookies available to the Republic as soon as possible via ghostly internet errata, followed by an alternate squad card that comes packaged with a hero.

*They were even in squads limited to precisely 3 or 4 models, just like in Legion.

5 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

We saw them fighting in force for the rebels*, fully licensed by LFL, on our tabletops, nearly a decade before the first prequel. In the specific context of tabletop wargame, there is nowhere more fitting for them than the rebellion, though the Clone Wars may be no less fitting. I personally think they should make the current wookies available to the Republic as soon as possible via ghostly internet errata, followed by an alternate squad card that comes packaged with a hero.

*They were even in squads limited to precisely 3 or 4 models, just like in Legion.

Yes agree, but what we saw before the mouse took over unless it was on screen doesn't mean as much anymore. So under current Canon/guidelines it would fit more with Republic, at least to see them in greater numbers. With the Rebels I always envisioned a small squad of them fighting for the cause

13 minutes ago, Revanur said:

Yes agree, but what we saw before the mouse took over unless it was on screen doesn't mean as much anymore. So under current Canon/guidelines it would fit more with Republic.

Well it must not fit it that much better according to Disney, since they already released them for the rebellion. Personally all appeals to current canon fall flat with me, since for just one example, duloks are canon but the original Imperial Army isn't. If the grown-ups in charge don't take it seriously neither will I.