Star Wars is full of weird and wonderful stuff. I'd say if you really wanted some kind of transforming droid/backpack hybrid, make it like a mini arc mission. Steal some blueprints from a mad scientist, collect the parts and then something like a daunting mechanics check. Sorted.

In terms of space, weight etc, that can be sorted narratively (if your group cares) by gathering something like a new lightweight allow, or a state of the art propulsion system, stuff like that.

In the clone wars there is a droid with a built in jetpack with no real increase in size, so I'd say it's definitely doable:

As a roleplay game, you can do whatever you guys want to really, think of the films etc as source material, use what your table wants. Rule of cool is cool for a reason. I've got one player looking to make a droid exo-suit people can wear. May not be feasible, but if he gets the parts I'll let him try.

"BUT FUEL TAKES UP SPACE!"

Normally I would agree, and I've never liked deck plans that don't take into account for hull thickness , engines, machinery, ect...... However, this little guy let the Falcon escape a Black hole... if jet packs are fueled in a similar manner in the SW universe, I think you can have an ID-10 droid attached to a Sabine Wren sized jetpack, and be about a Fett pack sized package.

(also, its SciFy, do what you can get away with.)

3 hours ago, RuusMarev said:

"BUT FUEL TAKES UP SPACE!"

Normally I would agree, and I've never liked deck plans that don't take into account for hull thickness , engines, machinery, ect...... However, this little guy let the Falcon escape a Black hole... if jet packs are fueled in a similar manner in the SW universe, I think you can have an ID-10 droid attached to a Sabine Wren sized jetpack, and be about a Fett pack sized package.

(also, its SciFy, do what you can get away with.)

That "little guy", as you put it, was Coaxium hyper fuel, and was added to the existing fuel mixture to boost speed by injecting it into the engine, much like squirting gasoline into a carborator or injecting nitrous oxide into a car's engine. However, it's really only intended for use in hyperdrives , not as a standard fuel, certainly not for a jet pack, and is highly volatile .

What if the droid was the character - with built-in rocket legs - and inside the droid was enough space for a small person to fit?

5 minutes ago, RLogue177 said:

What if the droid was the character - with built-in rocket legs - and inside the droid was enough space for a small person to fit?

That would be one biiiiiiig droid.

48 minutes ago, RLogue177 said:

What if the droid was the character - with built-in rocket legs - and inside the droid was enough space for a small person to fit?

43 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

That would be one biiiiiiig droid.

Not necessarily....

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The problem is as soon as you start to bring too much realism into the start wars setting, it will start to fall apart. As far as I know it's not designed to be hyper-realistic, so people can get away with all sorts of stuff in an rpg game.

27 minutes ago, Rabobankrider said:

The problem is as soon as you start to bring too much realism into the start wars setting, it will start to fall apart. As far as I know it's not designed to be hyper-realistic, so people can get away with all sorts of stuff in an rpg game.

By the same token, if you break the laws of physics too much or too often, it can break the suspension of disbelief.

8 hours ago, RuusMarev said:

"BUT FUEL TAKES UP SPACE!"

Normally I would agree, and I've never liked deck plans that don't take into account for hull thickness , engines, machinery, ect...... However, this little guy let the Falcon escape a Black hole... if jet packs are fueled in a similar manner in the SW universe, I think you can have an ID-10 droid attached to a Sabine Wren sized jetpack, and be about a Fett pack sized package.

(also, its SciFy, do what you can get away with.)

Yeah, the whole "fuel" point runs on the assumption that it would take up most of the space of the jetpack and thus leave little to no room for a droid that wasn't R2 size or bigger. Fuel is something that is very very rarely ever brought up in Star Wars, for all we know a week's worth of jetpack fuel is efficient enough and/or condensed enough that it could fit in a tank the size of one's fist. In fact it would have to be somewhere in that area for jetpacks to be able to work at all and be as small as they are. That's under the assumption that jetpacks even use anything resembling the kind of liquid fuels we're familiar with and can't just function off of energy from some source. Regardless, adding some legs, eyes, droid brain, and other appendages to a jetpack and turning it into a droid that's both nowhere near the size of R2 would be simple considering how tiny droids can be. ****, it probably wouldn't even need legs since Star Wars has anti gravity technology. Considering Boba Fett had one I'm surprised that jetpacks are seen as little as they are in Star Wars, EU or no, not to mention that a jetpack droid hasn't been made already.

I still can't see why you couldn't just put a slot for the legs, head, and arms or other tools and fold them up when the jetpack is actually being worn to have a jetpack droid and barely increase the jetpack's size. It also wouldn't be the first droid whose legs were able to carry a much larger torso either.

Bobas jetpack is perhaps on the large side, but to provide lift in star wars, you dont need more than Cad Banes tiny rocket boots. So a jet pack could conceivably be a lot smaller than Bobas.

11 minutes ago, penpenpen said:

Bobas jetpack is perhaps on the large side, but to provide lift in star wars, you dont need more than Cad Banes tiny rocket boots. So a jet pack could conceivably be a lot smaller than Bobas.

Plus consider that Boba's also launches missiles.

Star wars jet packs use fuel, likely similar to starship fuel. Star Wars has and uses liquid fuel. Boba's jetpack does not have infinite range. It has a number of short range 'bursts' of fuel. He can't fly from location to location. Cad Bane's boots also have limits, greater limits than Boba's jetpack. Reduced range, usage, and bursts come with that smaller package.

Look, if you want to slap a pair of jet boot thrusters on a pit droid and strap it to your back....by all means, go ahead. It will be great for jumping from one roof to another 2 or 3 times. There's nothing wrong with that. But it isn't a fully capable jet pack, and tying it to a droid is still pointless.

Look, its a scifi rpg game. They have blasters and laser swords. If you want a jetpack droid, make a jetpack droid. If you want to merge a droid into your gun, and another into your helmet, and another into your pants....GO TO TOWN BABY! I don't know why we are stopping at BD size. Make it smaller, lighter, faster, with more tools and abilities, and give it the ability to fly and some planetary scale weaponry, and a personal shield...

It's all about how far you want to suspend that disbelief. Having a jetpack as functional as Boba's while also containing a fully functioning droid with tools along with a set of legs (and probably arms right) to allow it to move autonomously (even though it will be strapped to your back most of the time) doesn't make a lot of sense. And that's fine! It doesn't have to. Live your dream! Stick handles between repulsor lift droids and hang from them as they fly you around (in atmo). You do you! If your GM allows it, roll a droid character and turn him into Mr Gadget with a helicopter prop that comes out of his head.

28 minutes ago, kmanweiss said:

If your GM allows it, roll a droid character and turn him into Mr Gadget with a helicopter prop that comes out of his head.

And if those rotors are made of lightsaber blades, canon backs you up!

8 hours ago, kmanweiss said:

It's all about how far you want to suspend that disbelief. Having a jetpack as functional as Boba's while also containing a fully functioning droid with tools along with a set of legs (and probably arms right) to allow it to move autonomously (even though it will be strapped to your back most of the time) doesn't make a lot of sense.

The problem is that there shouldn't be any disbelief to suspend to begin with. Based on all that we've seen of Star Wars a jetpack droid is not only extremely plausible but the only unbelievable thing about it is that with all the content in current canon and Legends there isn't anyone who has officially done it already. We've got plasma swords emitting from hilts only a few inches long, Bane's Rocket books, people capable to lifting X-Wings out of swamps with their mind, guns that shoot plasma, jetpacks and droids themselves... I could go on forever, but the point is that everybody can accept all of this without any issues, and yet a jetpack droid is something unbelievable? The only thing that doesn't make sense here is the idea not to mention the unreasonable fixation on it that a jetpack droid doesn't make sense.

2 hours ago, immortalfrieza said:

The problem is that there shouldn't be any disbelief to suspend to begin with. Based on all that we've seen of Star Wars a jetpack droid is not only extremely plausible but the only unbelievable thing about it is that with all the content in current canon and Legends there isn't anyone who has officially done it already. We've got plasma swords emitting from hilts only a few inches long, Bane's Rocket books, people capable to lifting X-Wings out of swamps with their mind, guns that shoot plasma, jetpacks and droids themselves... I could go on forever, but the point is that everybody can accept all of this without any issues, and yet a jetpack droid is something unbelievable? The only thing that doesn't make sense here is the idea not to mention the unreasonable fixation on it that a jetpack droid doesn't make sense.

Don't forget the lightwhip!

14 hours ago, immortalfrieza said:

The problem is that there shouldn't be any disbelief to suspend to begin with. Based on all that we've seen of Star Wars a jetpack droid is not only extremely plausible but the only unbelievable thing about it is that with all the content in current canon and Legends there isn't anyone who has officially done it already. We've got plasma swords emitting from hilts only a few inches long, Bane's Rocket books, people capable to lifting X-Wings out of swamps with their mind, guns that shoot plasma, jetpacks and droids themselves... I could go on forever, but the point is that everybody can accept all of this without any issues, and yet a jetpack droid is something unbelievable? The only thing that doesn't make sense here is the idea not to mention the unreasonable fixation on it that a jetpack droid doesn't make sense.

Weird, it's like you cut that quote off in a way that made it look like I said you shouldn't or couldn't do it.

You ended the quote at "doesn't make a lot of sense." The next two sentences were "And that's fine!" and "It doesn't have to." Which is making the same point you are trying to. You can do whatever you want in this game.

On 6/19/2019 at 11:52 AM, kmanweiss said:

Star wars jet packs use fuel, likely similar to starship fuel. Star Wars has and uses liquid fuel. Boba's jetpack does not have infinite range. It has a number of short range 'bursts' of fuel. He can't fly from location to location. Cad Bane's boots also have limits, greater limits than Boba's jetpack. Reduced range, usage, and bursts come with that smaller package.

Look, if you want to slap a pair of jet boot thrusters on a pit droid and strap it to your back....by all means, go ahead. It will be great for jumping from one roof to another 2 or 3 times. There's nothing wrong with that. But it isn't a fully capable jet pack, and tying it to a droid is still pointless.

Look, its a scifi rpg game. They have blasters and laser swords. If you want a jetpack droid, make a jetpack droid. If you want to merge a droid into your gun, and another into your helmet, and another into your pants....GO TO TOWN BABY! I don't know why we are stopping at BD size. Make it smaller, lighter, faster, with more tools and abilities, and give it the ability to fly and some planetary scale weaponry, and a personal shield...

It's all about how far you want to suspend that disbelief. Having a jetpack as functional as Boba's while also containing a fully functioning droid with tools along with a set of legs (and probably arms right) to allow it to move autonomously (even though it will be strapped to your back most of the time) doesn't make a lot of sense. And that's fine! It doesn't have to. Live your dream! Stick handles between repulsor lift droids and hang from them as they fly you around (in atmo). You do you! If your GM allows it, roll a droid character and turn him into Mr Gadget with a helicopter prop that comes out of his head.

Rebels shows multiple Mandalorians in higher altitude sustained flight. the Imperial Mandos have smaller jetpacks than Death Watch/Fetts, they also do sustained flight over a great distance.

Considering Jetpacks only see action in only two movies, and only briefly, Clone Wars and Rebels show them more..

If you can present your case and show the instances in these canon sources to the GM, with the understanding that you aren't expecting to traverse more than, what.. 50 miles on a charge? that would fall in line with most small scooters in the real world. Fuel is only ever mentioned in scify if writers need it for a story.. if someone abuses the Jetpack, GM could always tell you that the last time you fueled up, you did it with contaminated fuel, putting a limit on the packs use.

8 hours ago, kmanweiss said:

Weird, it's like you cut that quote off in a way that made it look like I said you shouldn't or couldn't do it.

You ended the quote at "doesn't make a lot of sense." The next two sentences were "And that's fine!" and "It doesn't have to." Which is making the same point you are trying to. You can do whatever you want in this game.

Of course you can do whatever you want in the game, that's not the point. GMs can put whatever they want in any tabletop game and the players can establish anything in a game the GM will let them get away with, that was never in dispute and it would be ridiculous to dispute that to begin with. What was in dispute was the concept of the Jetpack droid actually fitting into Star Wars, and as I and others have stated there's no cause to say it wouldn't and wouldn't require any more suspension of disbelief than anything else. The issue is that you and those taking the same position are dismissing and have been dismissing the whole concept of Jetpack droid out of hand with very flimsy justifications at best.

On 6/19/2019 at 6:26 AM, penpenpen said:

Bobas jetpack is perhaps on the large side, but to provide lift in star wars, you dont need more than Cad Banes tiny rocket boots. So a jet pack could conceivably be a lot smaller than Bobas.

According to the rules, those rocket boots are only good for one jump, not sustained flight.

On 6/19/2019 at 6:38 AM, MrTInce said:

Plus consider that Boba's also launches missiles.

One missile, not multiple missiles. And that missile is mounted on the top of the pack not internally.

On 6/19/2019 at 9:21 PM, immortalfrieza said:

The problem is that there shouldn't be any disbelief to suspend to begin with. Based on all that we've seen of Star Wars a jetpack droid is not only extremely plausible but the only unbelievable thing about it is that with all the content in current canon and Legends there isn't anyone who has officially done it already. We've got plasma swords emitting from hilts only a few inches long, Bane's Rocket books, people capable to lifting X-Wings out of swamps with their mind, guns that shoot plasma, jetpacks and droids themselves... I could go on forever, but the point is that everybody can accept all of this without any issues, and yet a jetpack droid is something unbelievable? The only thing that doesn't make sense here is the idea not to mention the unreasonable fixation on it that a jetpack droid doesn't make sense.

I disagree. There are still limitations as to what can and cannot be done with even SW technology. If we were talking a repulsor pack, that would be one thing, but a jet pack is another matter with specific inherent limitations.

On 6/20/2019 at 2:20 PM, RuusMarev said:

Rebels shows multiple Mandalorians in higher altitude sustained flight. the Imperial Mandos have smaller jetpacks than Death Watch/Fetts, they also do sustained flight over a great distance.

Yes, but for how long, and for how far, can they sustain that flight? The smallest jet pack we have in real life can sustain flight for no more than nine minutes. And that pack uses one engine on the back along with two smaller engines on each arm.

This is still larger than Boba Fett’s Z6 jet pack , and a large portion of the backpack is taken up with fuel. So, while the Z6 can sustain flight for some time (at a ceiling of up to seventy meters), it’s not going to be able to sustain it for more than a few minutes. That’s why these packs usually used for shorter jumps rather than sustained flight.

58 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

According to the rules, those rocket boots are only good for one jump, not sustained flight.

One missile, not multiple missiles. And that missile is mounted on the top of the pack not internally.

I disagree. There are still limitations as to what can and cannot be done with even SW technology. If we were talking a repulsor pack, that would be one thing, but a jet pack is another matter with specific inherent limitations.

Yes, but for how long, and for how far, can they sustain that flight? The smallest jet pack we have in real life can sustain flight for no more than nine minutes. And that pack uses one engine on the back along with two smaller engines on each arm.

This is still larger than Boba Fett’s Z6 jet pack , and a large portion of the backpack is taken up with fuel. So, while the Z6 can sustain flight for some time (at a ceiling of up to seventy meters), it’s not going to be able to sustain it for more than a few minutes. That’s why these packs usually used for shorter jumps rather than sustained flight.

You're seriously comparing Star Wars tech to one that can barely reach orbit with any consistency? A universe that plays fast and loose with what we consider immutable laws of physics? You can pile on more technical facts, but it's not going to make you come off as smarter or more reasonable, but as a petulant child demanding that their toys should be played with correctly.

If you're so insistant on convincing people to stop having fun, might I suggest doing it in a way that flatters your intelligence, because your current approach does not.

EDIT: Also, you're flat out wrong about the rocket boots, which can be used for up to four rounds, which is significantly more than a single jump.