33 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Yeah, remember rebel leia? They priced her to Oblivion at.. Uhh...

2?

Wait...

The number you're looking for is 8. Remember how common she was then?

33 minutes ago, Caduceus01 said:

Those abilities just specify in arc. Biggs and Selfless say attack arc and an autoblasters Attack arc ends at range 2

Firing arcs always extend to range 3, regardless of the range of the weapon. An attack arc is merely defined as the firing arc that the weapon is using to perform the attack, so the attack arc would also extend out to range 3, even if the weapon's actual range is more limited than that.

However, a weapon like proton rockets is limited to the bullseye arc, so for Biggs to work he would have to be within range 1 of the defender and also in the attacker's bullseye arc.

46 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Yeah, remember rebel leia? They priced her to Oblivion at.. Uhh...

2?

Wait...

First, she wasn't widely used when she was at 8. They clearly made a mistake with putting her at 2. Second, Resistance Leia gives a force so naturally the minimum she will be priced at is 9. Remember Trajectory simulator? Remember Supernatural Reflexes? Remember Redline? Remember Dormitz? When is the last time we have seen any of these cards that were so rampant at their original lower price points?

If FFG decides that these new resistance crew cards are ruining the game they will price them so people won't want to use them anymore.

41 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

I did make these same complaints about Grappling Struts. **** Grappling Struts.

To be fair you make a lot of complaints so people may be getting confused about what you are complaining about.

8 minutes ago, Skitch_ said:

To be fair you make a lot of complaints so people may be getting confused about what you are complaining about.

I'm out of reactions but I wanted to give you a medal for this

You know what I want more than the next wave? A Points Adjustment!!

Come on FFG, let's see some new numbers by the end of the week!

10 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

I'm out of reactions but I wanted to give you a medal for this

Word(s) 😉

18 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Look at all of these god **** words. It's like the three R factions are trying to play a **** version of MTG- it's like a card game instead of something dial-centric.

Inb4 these cards contain some underpriced degenerate nonsesne. It's going to be some sort of combo nonsense.

there is so much text on Holdo that the font size is smaller to accomodate more text.

Leia is just Rebel Leia but stronger and more flexible.

Yeah, because flying against Rebel brick or the same copy of 4 or 5 generic ships lists is so much fun.

I won't lie I liked combo aspect of 1st edition - there were some imbalanced aspects of that (Nym or Miranda with zillions of upgrades) but it was fun.

X-Wing lost its magic in 2nd edition, at least in current meta - everywhere I see 4 or 5 ships lists with underpriced Leia, there are no funny big ships lists and aces are sub-optimal.

Hmm, didn't pay much attention to Leia because she gonna be PRICEY, but that could be an absurdly annoying combo with stops

Now you can actually fortress with a starfortress...how kooky is that!?

Course you gotta bring the transport along to put Leia in

And ofc you put Holdo on the fortress to throw all your disarms at poor Leia and eat all her focus

as an aside, I adore how Holdo can let you play the selfless leader or the grubby, greedy xizor-esque bastard at a moment's notice

so it's kinda like how she was in the movie AND how Poe saw her! that's kinda cool!

6 hours ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Epic is not a real format- it's a meme at best.

Huh. At first I thought you were an overreactive ****, then I thought I was ingracious and tried to engage, and now I realize always go with your first instinct.

5 hours ago, Skitch_ said:

Why are people freaking out about these cards? FFG has already shown they will price things into oblivion so they never see the light of day again. People should be more upset at the thought that they will potentially never use something that they purchased than having to deal with a combo for a few months.

Yeah. But thank goodness they don't ban stuff. I really hate that.

49 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

so it's kinda like how she was in the movie AND how Poe saw her! that's kinda cool!

Whoa, slow down, FGD. It's kinda like your getting excited by fluff. . .I need some time to adjust. 😉

3 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:

Whoa, a low down, FGD. It's kinda like your getting excited by fluff. . .I need some time to adjust. 😉

ah, but only after I got excited by the gameplay variety

priorities!

(speaking of, the starfortress is exactly that weird kinda combat/support hybrid ship that would let bipolar Holdo shine!
whereas the transport is generally just pure selfless...unless that autoblaster is more potent than we expect...)

2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

unless that autoblaster is more potent than we expect...

Narrator: it wasn’t.

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

ah, but only after I got excited by the gameplay variety

priorities!

(speaking of, the starfortress is exactly that weird kinda combat/support hybrid ship that would let bipolar Holdo shine!
whereas the transport is generally just pure selfless...unless that autoblaster is more potent than we expect...)

Guaranteed crits can be rough

7 minutes ago, SavouryRain said:

Guaranteed crits can be rough

I don't think your definition of "guaranteed" holds for the entirety of the card :p

you still gotta roll em!

10 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I don't think your definition of "guaranteed" holds for the entirety of the card 😛

you still gotta roll em!

Marksmanship and Gavin say hi.

If it’s 5 or less, you can get 3 Blue Bs and Gavin.

if it’s 2? 3 Blades with Marksmanship instead

6 minutes ago, millertime059 said:

Marksmanship and Gavin say hi.

If it’s 5 or less, you can get 3 Blue Bs and Gavin.

if it’s 2? 3 Blades with Marksmanship instead

so bullseye only and a very expensive ship that only exists in rebels

so...not a whole lot for the poor transport to go on, eh?

of course, if blasters are like 0-2 points, they could still be pleasantly surprising

9 hours ago, C3gorach said:

Major Vermeil (and the TIE Reaper in general) would also enjoy some Angled Deflectors!

I doubt it. Reapers don't get many actions because they want to 1-sloop so often. Shield Upgrade is probably better as it doesn't suck up any actions. Assuming similar pricing, I'd go for 6 hull / 3 shields and maybe an action over 6 hull / 1 shield and maybe a reinforce.

6 minutes ago, millertime059 said:

Marksmanship and Gavin say hi.

If it’s 5 or less, you can get 3 Blue Bs and Gavin.

if it’s 2? 3 Blades with Marksmanship instead

If its 2 and Marksmanship fits it will be interesting, but I feel like it'll be higher.

The arc dodge + || requirement is pretty rough, not to mention throwing Gavin's arc requirement in the mix.

Outside of ||the benefit is pretty situational even with Gavin.

3 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

as an aside, I adore how Holdo can let you play the selfless leader or the grubby, greedy xizor-esque bastard at a moment's notice

so it's kinda like how she was in the movie AND how Poe saw her! that's kinda cool!

Oh man, that's also how the audience sees her, with the whole love her powerful female leader vs hate her admiral gender studies thing haha. I was trying to figure out how her ability was thematic, but it makes so much sense now.

That's so cool.

5 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

as an aside, I adore how Holdo can let you play the selfless leader or the grubby, greedy xizor-esque bastard at a moment's notice

so it's kinda like how she was in the movie AND how Poe saw her! that's kinda cool!

"Here Poe, I'll take that disarm for you. Have a focus"

"Wait, actually I need that focus now. Take this stress off my hands."

I just thought up a janky combo for angled deflectors' reinforce. Redline with reinforce (I'm calling it Redlinforce 😁 ) partnered with Lt Sai. Sai activates first, coordinates Redline to reinforce - Redline gets a free lock (if anything worth locking is an range at i3) and Sai gets a free reinforce because of his pilot ability. Then Redline activates, gets to focus or whatever and gets another free lock. The end result is both Redline and Sai are much harder to kill quickly and Redline can still get full mods.

Edit - those two ships plus proton torps for Redline comes to 111 points (before the cost of angled deflectors, whatever that turns out to be) so it might not be efficient enough to be highly competitive. I might give it a try though.

12 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

You know what isn't useless on Bwings?

MOAR BWING

Probably angled deflectors, to be honest. With Fire control/predator to give you modifications for your attack dice, the B-wing's big block of shields, depending on the price the ability to reinforce could make the B-wing a nice "go up the centre" ship.

4 hours ago, Magnus Grendel said:

Probably angled deflectors, to be honest. With Fire control/predator to give you modifications for your attack dice, the B-wing's big block of shields, depending on the price the ability to reinforce could make the B-wing a nice "go up the centre" ship.

Eh, I don't think angled is going to be efficient at all on any base chassis, due to lose of shield, added points, and loss of action (to reinforce)

You're probably gonna have to combo it to get any real value from it

One combo will doubtlessly be the Holdo transport (especially since it's only a 2-die primary anyway) and another would be the Delta-B Ahsoka

Edit: and once again, pilot subtitles prove to be the biggest improvement 2nd edition brought

As to the carping about generics being useless, I don't think that holds up.

The reason we don't see many generic lists in the top cuts is that most of the top players just don't fly them. If you cannot compete with generic ships, your opponents are just better than you. Sorry. I got beat by Nathan Eide in Bloomington. (GSP video, no commentary) Wasn't because his Aces were too cheap or my Vultures were not good. I lost because he is a better player than me. I made mistakes, he didn't.

The simple fact is this: most of the best X-wing players prefer the experience of flying aces. Why? That's a tricky question. Probably as many reasons as there are players.

5 minutes ago, gamblertuba said:

The reason we don't see many generic lists in the top cuts is that most of the top players just don't fly them.

4x Phantoms, Y-ions, Drea Swarm, 5As, Torrential

Me and You, we both play the same game?

Edit: forgot to mention Drones and Wardens, shout-out.