52 minutes ago, Kaptin Krunch said:

Guess what everyone?

Poe can Focus+Lock, and then Holdo can trade his stress for a reinforce! forever! because actively having to make action decisions is apparetly too hard for resistance players?

Nope, Reinforce is a green token as well as Focus is.

4 minutes ago, Qraith said:

Nope, Reinforce is a green token as well as Focus is.

Color =/= type

The sky is falling again ?

35 minutes ago, Innese said:

Wave 4 is on sale in Australia according to posts on the Mynock FB page

I picked mine up about an hour ago from my local FLGS. No points as yet... so they must be free.

Just now, Archangelspiv said:

I picked mine up about an hour ago from my local FLGS. No points as yet... so they must be free.

How many space credits is it going to take for card images my fine fellow?

I'm going to go with the sky isn't falling, for a couple of reasons:

1. POINTS. We don't know them, and likely won't for a week. That kinda makes all the difference. If Leia is 16 I doubt she'll see much play even still.

2. The Resistance is actually rather weak right now, especially T-70s. Their best list has only gotten a max of top 8 at a SO, respectable but by no means overwhelming. I didn't see a single Poe at my SO, when he should probably be a thing. Powerful cards are good for the game because they give options and are actually competitive as opposed to binder fodder. I'm getting really tired of binder fodder in 2e.

3. We need some faction identity, and these definitely give the Resistance that. They're supposed to be the powerful ship ace faction. I was still enjoying the latter part of 1e, and so trying to solve combowing power curves was something I enjoyed. I'm glad to see some stuff that echoes that.

2 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I thought Rey added two? Ah well.

2 force falcon isn't bad. Mind you, one must consider whether or not Rey+Leia on Han is going to be worth it.

RESISTANCE SYMPATHIZER, HOWEVER...

Rey pilot has 2 force

That's roughly 24 points right there (I'm assuming Leia will cost roughly the same as Emperor Palpatine) at least.

33 minutes ago, Innese said:

How many space credits is it going to take for card images my fine fellow?

I have just tried to upload the photos I took on my phone. It says they are too big to upload. Gimme a sec

Didn't see it here yet. Here's the last card of import.

@Hiemfire

Gosh I already hate most of these.

The only thing that gets me about deflectors is that the reinforce action on it probably should have been red. Though I'm betting it will be costed out of viability on most ships, and if it isn't it will be eventually. I can think of several ships it will be decent on, but reinforce tokens are fundamentally a losing proposition since they don't stop all damage.

@Kieransi Ty.

Technically reinforced deflectors has no words though!

2 minutes ago, DarkArk said:

The only thing that gets me about deflectors is that the reinforce action on it probably should have been red. Though I'm betting it will be costed out of viability on most ships, and if it isn't it will be eventually. I can think of several ships it will be decent on, but reinforce tokens are fundamentally a losing proposition since they don't stop all damage.

4 or 5 points tops. You reduce your HP for a chance to mitigate really bad rolls or shave a little bit more off nasty alpha strikes.

having Holdo trade her reinforce token for Poe's stress token is going to be disgusting.

I guess it makes sense thematically though, I shipped those two characters. RIP.

Just now, Hiemfire said:

4 or 5 points tops. You reduce your HP for a chance to mitigate a really bad roll or shave a little bit more off a nasty alpha strike.

If it saves you from two damage it's providing value over not taking it, and has a fair potential of saving you from more. There are a few ships I can think of that this would be troublesome with, but I'm not exactly afraid of it yet either.

Just now, Kieransi said:

having Holdo trade her reinforce token for Poe's stress token is going to be disgusting.

I guess it makes sense thematically though, I shipped those two characters. RIP.

Sure, but when was the last time you saw Poe? Also in that case just murder the ship Holdo is on, since it's the one stuck holding the check. It's likely to be a powerful ability but it has its downsides and limitations too.

1 hour ago, SavouryRain said:

Rey pilot has 2 force

That's roughly 24 points right there (I'm assuming Leia will cost roughly the same as Emperor Palpatine) at least.

Yeah but Rey's expensive as ****. Moreso than Han and at a lower initiative. Resistance Sympathizer will probably make up the difference, but lacks a talent. IDK. I just want a use for generic YTs, literally anywhere, ever, at any point. Someday.

14 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Didn't see it here yet. Here's the last card of import.

@Hiemfire

Wow that is frakking bonkers. Are you seriously telling me I can reinforce an A-Wing? Not that I would, but I could? Good lord... and only for the cost of minus one shield?

Technically, you COULD put this on a TIE Interceptor... Which is... Kind of insane. Doubly so, I could throw it on a Kihraxz, put a shield upgrade back on... Oh god.

**** this is a game changer. Straight up. Holy crap. And correct me if I'm wrong, but shields do not need to be active to be able to use reinforce? You can just... use it? Good grief.

Imagine these with TIE/FOs and Hux on a boat. Oh my GOODness...

You put angled deflectors on the pod and it definitely dies in 1 turn off it gives Poe the reinforce.

If the full transport takes it and Holdos the reinforce, it's a Y-Wing in a faction that does not spread damage around.

Falcon/Bomber can't take it. I'm not worried about it at all

For what it's worth, Holdo will only trigger when her carrier engages. This means that her effect to pass on Reinforce tokens will depend on the transport highest Init (likely to be low, probably 4 max?) as there is no other crew carrier for Resistance that could take the Deflectors.

Or you can use her on YT1300 Han to get him a Reinforce at I6 from another ship. So yeah, Reinforced Poe? Not sure it'll be that good unless your whole list fires at I3 or something.

If her ability has been "beginning of Engagement" or something like that she would have been broken, but "when you engage" is actually very limiting, if you want to use her to trade the strongest tokens in time for them to be useful.

1 minute ago, SavouryRain said:

I'm not worried about it at all

3 minutes ago, SavouryRain said:

You put angled deflectors on the pod and it definitely dies in 1 turn off it gives Poe the reinforce.

If the full transport takes it and Holdos the reinforce, it's a Y-Wing in a faction that does not spread damage around.

Falcon/Bomber can't take it. I'm not worried about it at all

ARCs can though, and that's pretty cool.

Lets wait it out and see what points will be first. A lot of stuff for Resistance had been priced high already with Rose at 9, Finn at 10, Rey 14. Plus a lot of stuff can be changed around. Angled Deflectors might cost a lot or heck, maybe if Bs are too good with it it might lose the mod slot.

Plus had no one played against some of the stuff in this game yet? Sloane is one of my hated things playing against. But it costs a bit and is the centerpoint of the squad.

"Oh, you killed my ship? Well take 2 stress tokens and forget about getting a action next round. Oh, and I get rerolls now."

Even better if you K-turned to stay in the fight and be triple stressed.

Haha wow, that sounds like a mess!

On the plus side: the resistance crew carriers are pretty bad? You play Han/Rey + Poe, or a Starfortress (easily 100pt), or one of the transport things. Only the Falcon has 2 crew, so combinations of different crew won't be a thing. And Leia only goes onto the Falcon. I hope she will be expensive enough. But in the end, she won't be that much of a problem - Resistance Aces did not suffer because their reds were closing their dials. The coordinate might be better, but we already had the possibility of a white coordinate on a Falcon for 2 crew slots, and that never took off. Why would a purple one be better?

Korr Sella is cool for Rey who often ends up with 2 stress tokens. That alone might bring her back into the game.

The angled deflectors are... interesting. Not faction restricted, so hello Darth Vader with reinforce? But I think it is a mistake to change an odd HP value to even. That makes the deflectores better for Rebels, particularly X, Y, U and B-wings. Hmmm.

Just now, Captain Lackwit said:

ARCs can though, and that's pretty cool.

I meant in terms of Holdo shenanigans, I'm not worried.

Reinforced Sinker with Palp on him will be fun. Reinforced Norra won't be.

It'll be a fairly expensive mod though.