38 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:They were mature even though they were native and sheltered. A lack of knowledge and immaturity are quite different.
Yes but maturity does require experience and they are seriously lacking in non military experience. So from a military perspective yes they are mature. But from every other aspect they are not and so in many ways they are like children.
7 hours ago, Daeglan said:Yes but maturity does require experience and they are seriously lacking in non military experience. So from a military perspective yes they are mature. But from every other aspect they are not and so in many ways they are like children.
It's the childlike mind that could in many ways make them good soldiers i.e. Droids = bad, Jedi = good.
9 hours ago, MrTInce said:It's the childlike mind that could in many ways make them good soldiers i.e. Droids = bad, Jedi = good.
I agree. Which is why all they got were military experiences.
I'm a little curious as to why anyone would need prices for these. Whats the point of knowing?
Edited by FuriousGreg1 hour ago, FuriousGreg said:I'm a little curious as to why anyone would need prices for these. Whats the point of knowing?
The same reason other droids have prices: So characters have prices to purchase them or sell captured/looted ones. I figured that would be obvious.
35 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:The same reason other droids have prices: So characters have prices to purchase them or sell captured/looted ones. I figured that would be obvious.
I think the issue is capture slaves....which is kind of what clones end up being
21 minutes ago, Daeglan said:I think the issue is capture slaves....which is kind of what clones end up being
And what droids have always been.
Which begs the question. What is your plan?
I don't necessarily need a plan for this BUT knowing this kind of stuff can be useful as I prep for the campaign.
For instance, I do have a party in my campaign that is using CIS droids and having a good idea of what resources they need would help me figure out some logistics and needed resources.
My PC's recently stumbled across a slaver who had 7 Mirialan slaves and the safest way to rescue these unfortunate victims was to buy them. So the question of 'how much do slaves go for' did indeed come up in my campaign.
And the question, 'How much can we sell these CIS droids for?' could be something that my rather mercenary players may ask sooner or later.
56 minutes ago, Daeglan said:Which begs the question. What is your plan?
I kept asking the Cylons that same question. I think their only plan was to keep everyone thinking they had a plan...
4 minutes ago, HappyDaze said:I kept asking the Cylons that same question. I think their only plan was to keep everyone thinking they had a plan...
Didn't they have the same 'mission statement' as the Daleks from Dr Who?
14 minutes ago, Mark Caliber said:Didn't they have the same 'mission statement' as the Daleks from Dr Who?
It sure looked that way, but they kept suggesting (and the intro kept telling us) they had some greater plan behind it all.
39 minutes ago, Mark Caliber said:I don't necessarily need a plan for this BUT knowing this kind of stuff can be useful as I prep for the campaign.
For instance, I do have a party in my campaign that is using CIS droids and having a good idea of what resources they need would help me figure out some logistics and needed resources.
My PC's recently stumbled across a slaver who had 7 Mirialan slaves and the safest way to rescue these unfortunate victims was to buy them. So the question of 'how much do slaves go for' did indeed come up in my campaign.
And the question, 'How much can we sell these CIS droids for?' could be something that my rather mercenary players may ask sooner or later.
I'd figure slaves would sell for droid prices as they serve the same function. If droid that does X costs Y, then slave that does X also costs Y. Both require ongoing maintenance. Age, condition of slave would have the same effect as on a droid. A new R series astromech can be 8-11k credits. But an older one that was used on a planet that is rough on droids, broken down, junked, and then repaired by some scavenger can be bought for as little as 500.
Slave being used as a maid, housekeeper or entertainer? Protocol prices. Slave being used for labor? Mining, labor droid prices. Slave being used for maintenance duties? Astronomer or maintenance droid prices. Slave being used for combat in the arena? Police, combat, security droid prices.
The only other variable is legality and location. Ep4-6 would be standard prices anywhere as slavery is legal and accepted. Ep1-3 Republic however would be different as slavery is not cool in the core worlds and technically illegal (but unenforced) in the outer rim. Demand is thereby lower and prices would probably go down a bit and you'd only find buyers/sellers in the outer rim areas.
And now I feel dirty for talking about slaves so nonchalantly.
22 hours ago, Daeglan said:But they also were not as mature as adults due to lack of experience and lack of exposure to anything but military training.
I think this all depends on how you describe maturity. We're talking trained soldiers that engage in combat. They make tough decisions, know their lives are on the line, act responsibly, protect innocent lives, etc. These all seem like pretty mature things.
Maturity is the ability to respond to situations and knowing how to behave and when to act according to the circumstances of one's culture or society. By that understanding, the clones at age 9 seem way more mature than many adults in the USA.
I don't think you need 20 years of living as a human to be considered mature. Every minute of every day of one's life is not maturity training for the future. The hours I spent playing MULE, Riverraid, Spyhunter, and watching Ninja Turtle cartoons wasn't teaching me to how to behave in society (if anything, they had the opposite effect). Taking an etiquette training seminar doesn't take years. There is no reason at all to believe that the clones at age 9 are any less mature than a regular human at age 18.
15 hours ago, HappyDaze said:It sure looked that way, but they kept suggesting (and the intro kept telling us) they had some greater plan behind it all.
It's ineffable.