I gathered some comments posted on BGG that highlight the shortcomings of Talisman 4 th ed. by Black Industries. The most common complaints are too much randomness, not enough control, and the game lasts too long (it seems that pushing past 3 hours is too long for a lot of players). Black Industries tried to fix the game length with house rules but they didn’t put much (if any) effort towards the other issues. It looks like Fantasy Flight made several changes to address some of the problems that players had with the game. This thread is to discuss what problems FF missed and how they might be resolved. Please keep your posts aimed towards the general game or specific rules. This thread is not meant for rants about individual cards or how one die roll made you lose the game.