Say I have an E-wing with Passive Sensors and Composure.

I engage and choose target lock as my PS action when my enemy is at range 1.

Now my Passive Sensors is giving me a full focus action instead of a Calc.

OR

What if there IS a valid enemy ship in range for the lock? Can I intentionally fail my lock anyway and take my composure focus action?

Am I wrong? Failing Locks is still confusing to me...

I don’t think an E-Wing can fail a lock. Unless it is range one of all enemies and obstacles, there is always something for it to get lock on.

Lock does not fail unless there are no Objects to Lock. The E-Wing's ability effectively makes this impossible unless every Object in play is at range 1 of it.

Objects

Ships , obstacles , and devices are all OBJECTS . The exact position of objects in the play area is tracked and restricted by game effects.

• Ships can acquire locks on objects.
• Ships can move through objects.

Sabinekey is right, you cannot fail a lock if there is another ship or obstacle you can legally take a lock on.

Locks, essentially, cannot fail. Ever.

As long as there is some friendly ship, enemy ship, or obstacle within the valid ranges (not at range 1 for an E-Wing, within 0-3 on anything else), you'll succeed and have to lock that object, whether you want to or not. Technically, a lock can fail. You'd need probably all the obstacles to be destroyed, and all other ships at the right ranges in order to fail. This will not happen in any realistic game.

Composure Corran + Seismic New Meta???

I think a lot of people think you have to nominate something just after you declare a TL action, instead of declaring action and seeing what is in range.

This scenario popped in E Wings when 2.0/Composure was released.

The declaring target before measuring your tl thing is a hold over from 1st Ed

I STILL expect it to work that way sometimes. Old habits and all...

Also, Composure itself is kind of a weird card. I'm glad FFG has done a lot to prevent abuse of it and that it's only 1 point, but it's also kinda difficult to ever utilitize

Only ever placed it on the Reaper, because I have the depth perception of a one eyes goldfish and can't judge range 1 jams for diddly

6 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

Also  , Composure itself is kind of a weird card. I'm glad FFG has done a lot to prevent abuse of it and that it's only 1 point, but it's also kinda difficult to ever utilitize

Only ever placed it on the Reaper, because I have the depth perception of a one  eyes goldfish and can't judge range 1 jams for diddly 

Yeaaah I think I’d rather it be a little abusable and cost appropriately, personally, but. Oh well. Composure Hera is fun, if a looot if points to sink into one trick.

Edit: at least it’s more viable than Hatin’ Kanan... 😞

I don't think we'd want hatin Kanan to be viable 😛

Seems like it'd be **** irritating

Couldn't you just focus as your action?

4 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

Couldn't you just focus as your action?

You could. You can also spend a point to do it after failing a non-red action, which can very occasionally be better than just insurance against that happening.

5 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I don't think we'd want hatin Kanan to be viable 😛

Seems like it'd be **** irritating

Viable doesn’t have to mean overpowered 😂 There are obvious disadvantages to flying Hatin’ Kanan. You don’t have to take them entirely away, just a little bit.

4 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

Couldn't you just focus as your action?

As is, it’s basically only useful when you fail range on a Coordinate/Jam or if you have a different specific action as a free action and can fail that one (Snap can fail his free boost, Hera can fail her free coordinate with the Sheathipede docked).

If they’d allowed you to fail linked actions into a focus action, and just make the focus action whatever color the failed action was, the card would be a lot more viable (though again, it would need to be priced accordingly.)

Aside: Do we have any official word on whether you can use Composure to safeguard Spacetug Tractor Array?

7 minutes ago, Maui. said:

Aside: Do we have any official word on whether you can use Composure to safeguard Spacetug Tractor Array?

Yes it was in the latest FAQ I believe.

23 minutes ago, SpiderMana said:

Hera can fail her free coordinate with the Sheathipede docked

Isn't it strictly better for AP-5 to coordinate her a focus, even while stressed?

I love Hera and am always looking to improve, but I've never tried this combo as it seems overpriced for 33 points.

22 minutes ago, Chumbalaya said:

Couldn't you just focus as your action?

You can, but when you have close coordinates, Jams, barrel rolls and boosts, you can try what you wanted and get a focus if it doesn't work.

43 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Isn't it strictly better for AP-5 to coordinate her a focus, even while stressed?

I love Hera and am always looking to improve, but I've never tried this combo as it seems overpriced for 33 points.

This composure build keeps AP5 docked, though. The idea is to make her a super ace—giving her the option to tank hits with a reinforce or buff damage with a TL, all the while keeping her focused as a free action. The builds I’ve made around it are with ProTorp Luke or Corran as a wingman, as either can hold their own fairly effectively.

(As an added benefit, they can’t try to pick off AP-5 to negate your free focus actions. Also I put Zeb on Hera, so giving her a focus before making her bump intentionally is also great, and won me the game vs an i2 Defender that tried to K-turn in front of me, assuming I’d go past. I had dialed in a 4K but changed it to a 1 turn to bump him )

I was just thinking about something related to this. While it's pretty much impossible for a Lock to fail, that's not the only Composure-related Shennanigan for Passive Sensors, particularly as it applies to Composure Hera. I wonder, could Passive Sensors cause Coordinate to fail, if the only ship within range had a spent-charge Passive Sensors?

I'm leaning towards yes, the Coordinate fails.

Quote

While a ship coordinates, the coordinate fails if no friendly ship can be chosen.

If the chosen ship attempts to perform an action but that action fails, the coordinate does not fail. (Coordinate, p.8)

Passive Sensors prevents a ship which has spent it's charge from being coordinated. As I read that, it seems to suggest that the PS ship cannot be chosen. It's not that the PS Ship can be chosen but cannot perform an action, as would be the case when a stressed ship is coordinated--a known example of a case where Coordinate does not fail, but generally has no practical effect. AP-5, Primed Thrusters, and Chopper-crew all enable a stressed ship, when coordinated, to perform some actions. But Passive Sensors uses a different kind of language. Again, I'd read it as preventing the ship from being a valid choice *at all,* which to me implies failure.

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The list I'm pondering:

• Lothal Rebel (Passive Sensors, Saw Gerrera)
• Hera Syndulla (Composure, Advanced Sensors)
• AP-5
• 4 points of wiggle, maybe Zeb crew on Hera, maybe Chopper pilot over Lothal Rebel, maybe just 2x Hull Upgrade

The timing for Comms Shuttle on the Sheathipede is clearly before the timing window on Advanced Sensors, so Hera would be able to Coordinate (into Composure Focus) + Action before she does a red move. Presuming that Passive Sensors' charge being spent means Coordinate fails, you'd just have two easy double-modded 4-dice attacks.

Seems to check out. I’d say it works.

I would say that the text, "While your energy is inactive you cannot be coordinated", could/should read you cannot be the target of a coordinate action. Probably needs an FAQ like everything else released by FFG atm, but I would argue that you are ineligible to be targeted if your energy is spent.

It all depends on their wording I guess.

On 5/22/2019 at 4:53 PM, Hiemfire said:

Lock does not fail unless there are no Objects to Lock. The E-Wing's ability effectively makes this impossible unless every Object in play is at range 1 of it. 

Achievement: Singularity - Fail a lock with an E-wing

5 hours ago, prauxim said:

Achievement: Singularity - Fail a lock with an E-wing

Against a seismic spam list it could be possible near the endgame.

Also would be hilarious.

48 minutes ago, ClassicalMoser said:

Against a seismic spam list it could be possible near the endgame.

Also would be hilarious.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I got curious and decided to check, technically it's possible without seismic

14 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Yeah that's what I was thinking, but I got curious and decided to check, technically it's possible without seismic

Those obstacles count as being in range 1 and in range 2.