Tariffs will not solve the problem. Protectionism has never worked. If you lose your job, there's nothing "good" that comes out of it. This isn't a "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one" situation, this is just bog-standard protectionism and it will hurt everyone more than it "helps".

1 hour ago, Scrivner said:

China has unfair trade practices - they break trade rules, they manipulate their economy at their trading partners' expense, and they literally steal from us* (which besides hurting the companies being stolen from, is also a national security issue).

I'm neither from US nor China, and even if I have way more affinity to US and western values, I know the US did much worse to became a industrialised economy in record time, just a century and a half ago. As did many many other industrialised nations too.

17 minutes ago, LUZ_TAK said:

I'm neither from US nor China, and even if I have way more affinity to US and western values, I know the US did much worse to became a industrialised economy in record time, just a century and a half ago. As did many many other industrialised nations too.

Noted. However, your great-great-great-great grandparents having been thieves doesn't mean you don't have a right to defend yourself from being robbed.

Yes, you do have a point.

Trump gave a billion dollar socialist handout to the farmers, maybe he will bail out the table top board game industry too. 🤣 🤣 🤣

On 6/7/2019 at 5:55 PM, XPav said:

Tariffs will not solve the problem. Protectionism has never worked. If you lose your job, there's nothing "good" that comes out of it. This isn't a "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one" situation, this is just bog-standard protectionism and it will hurt everyone more than it "helps".

Tariffs are not simply a weapon of protectionism, they can be quite the opposite. The Tariffs are to force other countries to reduce their tariffs, and then both countries can be on the same tariff level playing field. Consumers of the country raising tariffs may --at first-- have to pay a bit more from the tariffed country (like China for instance as they are the one in question, who has had stiff tariffs on American goods as well as many other 1st world ones for years), but rather quickly one of two things will occur: 1) the newly tariffed country reduces it's tariffs so there is balance, or 2) a new manufacturer of the good from another source country will fill the previous price point and thus the units can be purchased avoiding said tariff. Short term balancing of tariffs may pinch. but they are logical and necessary. Politicians on both sides of the aisle have seemingly sold out countries like the US, England, Ireland, etc. since the late 80's and I believe it is high time to finally attempt to better level the playing field, no matter your political bent or ideology one has). Who knows, if the American colonists were able to purchase oversees goods at the same tax/tariff rate as other countries, maybe it would still be an English colony? Um, nah, probably not; I mean, what American wants to eat baked tomatoes and spice-less sausage for breakfast?

Now, back to real X-Wing talk which is far more fun..........and where's my tea?