Are Force Upgrades weak or expensive?

By DerRitter, in X-Wing

1 hour ago, theBitterFig said:

However, something like a 104th with Palp/Sidious doing his coordinate to one ship could be rather scary. Seems like it'd be easy to have Focus & Reposition & Passive Sensors. Combine with Baby Anakin in an N-1 with Instinctive Aim? Will he even have a Force Talent slot, specifically to avoid Instinctive Aim?

Interesting thought, baby Anakin not having force talent. It would be kinda thematic.

I can see that slipping through ok if he does though. It would be a powerful and unpredictable strike, but coming from a squishy I4 makes it less of a genuine terror, I think. There are a few I4 platforms that you can build in way that would be broken at I5 or 6.

Also, Battle Meditation for a double mod alpha is a thing I've tried. Anakin and a couple 7FG 104ths. Not terribly difficult to set up a 2x 4 die double modded attack, with the locks coming at I6. With Anakins attack as well, if it can be done safely.

If it whiffs, not even by a lot, things get real complicated. The firepower dwindles off too much, after the merge, to deal with continued pressure and both ARCs die. But if it causes a big enough dent, it can be really strong. Disengaging well with 1 healthy ARC means you can set up enough of a return punch to make an easy endgame for Anakin.

Had a few good games with it, including a win over my mates 5xRZ-2s.... but now my son keeps beating it, so I've put it on the back burner before I ruin it forever.

Edited by Cuz05
On 5/9/2019 at 1:16 AM, Green Knight said:

Supernatural Ani anyone?

I'm just so looking forward to Supernatural I4 Ani.

SR barrel roll and then barrel roll to get a 3-speed sideways move and move forward by a whole base length.

"That's a good trick"

2 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

If Y-Wings have Sensor slots (doesn't look like it in the spread). https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/4/13/the-fate-of-the-galaxy/

I mean, I think you're right that this is something we ought to be aware of, and something I hope FFG is cautious about. But it might be incredibly awkward to get onto the table.

However, something like a 104th with Palp/Sidious doing his coordinate to one ship could be rather scary. Seems like it'd be easy to have Focus & Reposition & Passive Sensors. Combine with Baby Anakin in an N-1 with Instinctive Aim? Will he even have a Force Talent slot, specifically to avoid Instinctive Aim?

I saw someone say it's a device + mod upgrade?

Didn't make much sense to me (passive SENSORS) but gameplay wise I saw the justification

Only having the French leak to go by (with what I saw, anyway) makes it difficult to judge

But yeah, if we DO get I 3 sensor generics battle meditation will have a potent niche in the republic

EDIT: nope it's coming with the n1 and I don't think they got devices...

Guess we gotta wait for i3 systems or generics with evade action (come on cheaper Dedicated torrents...)

On an unrelated note, Daredevil N1 actually seems utterly hilarious

Edited by ficklegreendice
55 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I saw someone say it's a device + mod upgrade?

That's the new electro-proton bomb coming with the Hyena and the Republic Y-Wing.

Force powers aren't as strong as some EPTs depending on intent. EPTs still provide things like trick shot and daredevil just aren't matched any force powers yet

On 5/10/2019 at 11:54 AM, ClassicalMoser said:

I'm just so looking forward to Supernatural I4 Ani.

SR barrel roll and then barrel roll to get a 3-speed sideways move and move forward by a whole base length.

"That's a good trick" 

As funny as it looks can't be done as Ani only has 1 force, so if you use SNR you no longer have an available force to use his ability.

Which is basically the whole problem with force talents, they look good but there is just too much competition for those force tokens.

Just now, DerRitter said:

As funny as it looks can't be done as Ani only has 1 force, so if you use SNR you no longer have an available force to use his ability.

Which is basically the whole problem with force talents, they look good but there is just too much competition for those force tokens.

Oh rats

1 hour ago, DerRitter said:

As funny as it looks can't be done as Ani only has 1 force, so if you use SNR you no longer have an available force to use his ability.

Which is basically the whole problem with force talents, they look good but there is just too much competition for those force tokens.

Absolutely. Learning to manage force points has been interesting. I think I got the hang of it though. I think it's best to use them as last resorts when needed and not to spend like crazy even though it's tempting. I wish the light side had something like Hate... maybe some day.

Come to think of it... the idea of conservative use of force points on the light side compared to how the dark side can use them like crazy is VERY cinematic. Well done FFG... never thought of it that way.

I wish we had a jedi equivalent of Daredevil... I could of used that so many times in my games. I'm use to using it on Reb A wings and Jedi star fighters would benefit greatly from it.

1 hour ago, Arc170Chris said:

Absolutely. Learning to manage force points has been interesting. I think I got the hang of it though. I think it's best to use them as last resorts when needed and not to spend like crazy even though it's tempting. I wish the light side had something like Hate... maybe some day.

If they want more power we are always accepting new members on the dark side.