With composure and the Interceptors built in boost and barrel roll, would composure be a cheap way to exploit the games mechanics into a focus and evade?

Also with target locks being added soon as a mod (presumably) will composure giving Interceptors focus and target locks be viable? How about a focus, evade, target lock Soontir.

2 minutes ago, All Shields Forward said:

With composure and the Interceptors built in boost and barrel roll, would composure be a cheap way to exploit the games mechanics into a focus and evade?

Also with target locks being added soon as a mod (presumably) will composure giving Interceptors focus and target locks be viable? How about a focus, evade, target lock Soontir.

No, because even if the link action is failed, you still received the stress from a failed red action which then wouldn't allow you to take the focus action from composure.

1 minute ago, RStan said:

No, because even if the link action is failed, you still received the stress from a failed red action which then wouldn't allow you to take the focus action from composure.

Okay that makes sense. Glad really, felt exploitative. Also triple checking composure, you can't use it if you already have a green token. The focus and target lock would theoretically work though.

Yeah this was like one of the first discovered ways to ''cheat'' composure that led to a change at the start of the edition if I remember right.
If you didn't get a stress from a failed action (I think it was like this at first) you could also use Mof Jerjerod to boost your whole list in a way that they fail, get no stress, get a focus for everyone then do regular actions.

I think this is also why Punisher gets no EPT (boost failed, get focus, linked into TL)

Nope. They fixed this loophole by making failed red actions give you stress and accidentally made named B-Wings better.

Systems with lots of moving parts are fun to balance!

This isn't cheating, standard use of game mechanics.

Doesn't work with Interceptors, but does work with Temmen Wexley (Resistance T70) and to some degree with Lulo (Resistance A RZ2) - he often intentionaly fail boost to get stress and additional red dice.

edit: just ninja'd

Wexley is the only pilot I know that can exploit composure. His free boost doesn't give you stress, so you can fail it, and Target Lock.

Composure + Afterburners is an awesome combo for Maarek. His action bar is hot garbage, and unlike Vader, he can't just spend space magic to keep doing actions. As a result, he either needs palp or coordinate support, or watches his single mod attack not do all too much damage whilst his modless defense dice absolutely destroy him. But if you use Afterburners to attempt a boost, intentionally fail it by bumping into a friend, enemy, rock or try flying off the board edge, then Composure triggers, giving you the focus action. Then Maarek can use his normal action to snag a lock.

7pt for 2 free focus actions in a game seems like a steep price, but it's not. Focus + lock is a powerful combo, and on Maarek it's cheap enough for what it needs to do. Besides, he's an X1 and thus wants afterburners. For 1 pt more, you give him the option to replace a free boost with a free focus action. Combined with Whisper and Rexler, double-mod Maarek provides a powerful alpha.

Hera Ghost with a docked Sheathipede and a wingman who stays out of Coordinate range is another good place for Composure cheese. Double bonus for having a Perceptive Co-Pilot!

2 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

Wexley is the only pilot I know that can exploit composure. His free boost doesn't give you stress, so you can fail it, and Target Lock.

Sabine in the Attack Shuttle is actually really good with composure. You have different ways to get focus and evade with her and what I like best: you can fail the boost/BR before you 4K to get a modified shot in the back of your opponent.

2 hours ago, Oldpara said:

This isn't cheating, standard use of game mechanics.

Doesn't work with Interceptors, but does work with Temmen Wexley (Resistance T70) and to some degree with Lulo (Resistance A RZ2) - he often intentionaly fail boost to get stress and additional red dice.

It doesn’t work with Lulo. If you are failing his bonus red boost action to get stressed the you can’t do the focus action triggered by composure because you are stressed.

Works great with Wesley tho..!

2 hours ago, skotothalamos said:

Hera Ghost with a docked Sheathipede and a wingman who stays out of Coordinate range is another good place for Composure cheese. Double bonus for having a Perceptive Co-Pilot!

Ooh, might have to try that!

18 minutes ago, cybu said:

Sabine in the Attack Shuttle is actually really good with composure. You have different ways to get focus and evade with her and what I like best: you can fail the boost/BR before you 4K to get a modified shot in the back of your opponent.

Also interesting, but I tend to use Juke on her instead. Debris Gambit is also a competitor for her Talent slot.

1 hour ago, Tyhar7 said:

It doesn’t work with Lulo. If you are failing his bonus red boost action to get stressed the you can’t do the focus action triggered by composure because you are stressed.

Works great with Wesley tho..!

I meant "intentional failed boost trick" but with different bonus (additional red dice from ability, instead focus form composure).

Composure doesn't work with Lulo obviously.

1 hour ago, cybu said:

Sabine in the Attack Shuttle is actually really good with composure. You have different ways to get focus and evade with her and what I like best: you can fail the boost/BR before you 4K to get a modified shot in the back of your opponent.

TIE Fighter is great too. Either you're as squirrely as a superforce user, or you have focus + evade behind three green dice. At 31 points! If I'm playing Extended Rebels I never leave home without that yellow horror.

Couldn't this work with Turr Phennir? Boost or Barrel Roll into something after shooting and get a focus?

32 minutes ago, Okapi said:

TIE Fighter is great too. Either you're as squirrely as a superforce user, or you have focus + evade behind three green dice. At 31 points! If I'm playing Extended Rebels I never leave home without that yellow horror.

Speaking of TIEs, I wonder if Scorch in the FO would be another good platform for Afterburners/Composure abuse. Then throw in Advanced Optics and he’s extra ridiculous...

42 minutes ago, McGarnacle said:

Couldn't this work with Turr Phennir? Boost or Barrel Roll into something after shooting and get a focus?

If they aren't stressed and have no green tokens yes.

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

If they aren't stressed and have no green tokens yes.

Which means he's gonna benefit from that targeting computer. Or just take snapshot and get more mileage out of the ability.

2 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

Which means he's gonna benefit from that targeting computer. Or just take snapshot and get more mileage out of the ability.

I could see using Snap Shot on Tur Phennir to aid with their mobility. Occasionally popping a snap shot off on someone moving before them who is trying to move in for a block and then rolling out before Tur activates or in reply to someone who moved afterwards to both get some quick damage in (if the 2 dice get through) and repositioning for either a closer in shot with Tur's primary or getting out of the other ship's arc.

12 hours ago, CoffeeMinion said:

Speaking of TIEs, I wonder if Scorch in the FO would be another good platform for Afterburners/Composure abuse. Then throw in Advanced Optics and he’s extra ridiculous...

Could be! He's no Talonbane, but he's also pretty cheap.