So going on the assumption we will get 6 Jedi career specializations (which may be wrong) what ranks or titles do you think they would use? I assume we know the 1st 2.
1. PADAWAN
2. JEDI KNIGHT
What do you think or in existing ranks what do you think we will get to fill the rest?
3. Jedi General
4. Jedi Weapon Master
5. Jedi Grand master.
6. Jedi council member
Let me know what you think for the 6 specilzation trees. (Yes I know this is speculating?)
Jedi Master is probably the next spec.
I could see General too, but I think I’d prefer that be accomplished through taking an out of career spec from AoR instead.
I can see Jedi Master, and perhaps Jedi General. I doubt Grand Master or Council Member will be on there. I think it's more likely we see something like the AgriCorps, Jedi Investigators, Jedi Archivists, Jedi Temple Guards, or other such roles. Positions that are relatively common throughout the Jedi Order, and aren't as rare and prestigious as Grand Master or Council Member. If I had to pick the most likely two, it would be Jedi Archivist (a purely non-combat focused Jedi tree), and Jedi Temple Guard (a heavily combat focused Jedi tree).
Jedi Master would be more of the same, offering two ranks of Parry, two of Reflect, Lightsaber Mastery (the talent Inquisitors can take that lets them choose an attribute and use that instead of Brawn for lightsaber combat), The Force Is My Ally, Force Rating, Dedication, and likely Skilled Teacher, Secrets of the Jedi, and Improved Secrets of the Jedi.
Jedi General would take a page out of Age of Rebellion's Commander Career. Knowledge (Warfare) and Leadership being some of its bonus skills, a couple ranks of Command/Commanding Presence, Field Commander, Enhanced Leader, and Master/Natural Leader, in addition to a rank of Parry, a rank of Reflect, and a Dedication. This is one of the few Jedi specializations I could see possibly not receiving a rank in Force Rating, as taking part in active warfare is contrary to the way of the Jedi. But odds are, it'd still get a rank of Force Rating regardless.
Jedi Archivist would be more in line with Edge of the Empire's Archaeologist and Scholar specializations. Astrogation, Knowledge (Education), Knowledge (Lore), Knowledge (Xenology) all as likely career skills. Well Rounded, Knowledge Specialization, a couple ranks of Respected Scholar, Master/Natural Scholar, Valuable Facts, Museum Worthy, Dedication, and a Force Rating to top it all off.
Jedi Temple Guard would be a much more combat-focused specialization. Discipline, Lightsaber, Melee, and Vigilance as likely career skills. A couple ranks of Parry, a couple Reflect, some Toughened, some Grit, Multiple Opponents, Nobody's Fool, Constant Vigilance, Defensive Training, Sum Djem, Rapid Reactions, Sense Danger, and Uncanny Reactions are all likely talents for this tree, in addition to a Dedication and a Force Rating.
Heck, now that I'm discussing this, I'm tempted to just build these specializations as homebrews for now, until we get the rest of the official Jedi specs (whenever the heck that happens.)
If you are so inclined to make these four specs, you think you would share them with us? : )
I was thinking if building them as well if I do I will share.
Do you where a good blank talent tree template is at?
Underachvier - for the general maybe make a talent that interact with the Force power battle mediation. That would be a great unique talent for the specialization.
Weirdly enough I first read the title as "Jedi Pranks".
What about the obligatory Darkside Spec? Sith Lord.
Jedi Master is a pretty obvious option, probably with an FR3 pre-req. Grand Master seems extremely unlikely as there's only one of those at a time, and Yoda's got the job already.
Having a Council Member spec is a cool idea, but it's too easy to exploit. Having that spec without taking Master unfairly gamebreaking to an outrageous degree.
I like the options that Underaciever599 listed.
I could see a Master spec (prereq of FR 3 does seem very likely, and might offer two Force Rating talents as opposed to a Dedication and Force Rating that most non-lightsaber-centric Force user specs offer) and perhaps Temple Guard as well, maybe even a General or perhaps Battle Master. Padawan and Knight already cover a lot of what an Archivist role would offer, plus Archivist seems pretty narrow.
1 hour ago, Donovan Morningfire said:I could see a Master spec (prereq of FR 3 does seem very likely, and might offer two Force Rating talents as opposed to a Dedication and Force Rating that most non-lightsaber-centric Force user specs offer) and perhaps Temple Guard as well, maybe even a General or perhaps Battle Master. Padawan and Knight already cover a lot of what an Archivist role would offer, plus Archivist seems pretty narrow.
The way I see it, the Jedi should have at least one non-combat focused spec. Looking at Padawan and Knight, the only real overlap with my idea for Archivist is Well Rounded and Valuable Facts, which could be traded out for something else. And to me, Archivist opens up a ton of possibility for story. Archivists don't just sit in the Jedi Archives and pass on knowledge. They travel the galaxy and gather that knowledge. Reclaiming stolen Jedi artifacts, studying long-forgotten Jedi temples, there's all manner of stories that could be told with what is essentially a Jedi archaeologist.
If they do give us additional Jedi specs, I hope they are not rank-tiered. I would like them to branch out with things like Temple Guard more than just a straight chain from Padawan to Grand Master. However, I am OK with a Jedi Master career if only to follow the two current specs, and I do realize that most of the branching out can be done with other FaD specs (so much so that I'm not really sure I like the generic Jedi career at all).
17 hours ago, DarthHammer said:Jedi Master is a pretty obvious option, probably with an FR3 pre-req. Grand Master seems extremely unlikely as there's only one of those at a time, and Yoda's got the job already.
Having a Council Member spec is a cool idea, but it's too easy to exploit. Having that spec without taking Master unfairly gamebreaking to an outrageous degree.
6 hours ago, Donovan Morningfire said:I could see a Master spec (prereq of FR 3 does seem very likely, and might offer two Force Rating talents as opposed to a Dedication and Force Rating that most non-lightsaber-centric Force user specs offer) and perhaps Temple Guard as well, maybe even a General or perhaps Battle Master. Padawan and Knight already cover a lot of what an Archivist role would offer, plus Archivist seems pretty narrow.
I'd hazard to guess that if they did go Jedi Master as a spec, it's FR prerequisite would be quite a bit higher than 3. I'd say more likely FR 5
On 4/23/2019 at 9:30 AM, kaosoe said:Weirdly enough I first read the title as "Jedi Pranks".
Now I want a thread of Jedi Pranks
My thoughts for Master would be require force rank 4. Then they would have to hit another tree before they can get to master, versus just going from knight to master.
Another thought I had which we haven't seen before is an exp requirement. Either total to buy the tree, or requiring to have at least a specific amount of exp spent on force powers. That would help keep people from racing to the career versus filling out their character.
Thought on exp requirements?
I can see them adding Master in FotR just to Troll Anakin.
But seriously, I feel they could stop there. They could all all kinds of Specs, however, most of the things they could add would be covered by other specs from other careers. Which could lead to Jedi being "too good" of a career leaving no reason to cross career spec if you can get everything in one. Now the 2 we've seen let you play a decent (and flavorful) force user without FaD if you are coming at it from the other lines, so that is a plus for more casual player groups. I do like the idea of a Temple Guard of Archivist spec, but again these could be well covered by other careers and specs as does General.
It seems unlikely they would do 2 the 4 in the next book. Although they could add more with an Old Republic book later.
I think they could and maybe should just leave it at 3...
12 hours ago, samuraisolomon said:I can see them adding Master in FotR just to Troll Anakin.
But seriously, I feel they could stop there. They could all all kinds of Specs, however, most of the things they could add would be covered by other specs from other careers. Which could lead to Jedi being "too good" of a career leaving no reason to cross career spec if you can get everything in one. Now the 2 we've seen let you play a decent (and flavorful) force user without FaD if you are coming at it from the other lines, so that is a plus for more casual player groups. I do like the idea of a Temple Guard of Archivist spec, but again these could be well covered by other careers and specs as does General.
It seems unlikely they would do 2 the 4 in the next book. Although they could add more with an Old Republic book later.
I think they could and maybe should just leave it at 3...
I could see getting jedi sentinel, consular, guardian in a kotor book. To fill the career out to 6. With FotR getting the signature abilities
1 hour ago, Daeglan said:I could see getting jedi sentinel, consular, guardian in a kotor book. To fill the career out to 6. With FotR getting the signature abilities
Those are already covered in the Consular, Guardian and Sentinel careers. You'd be creating too much overlap.
53 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:Those are already covered in the Consular, Guardian and Sentinel careers. You'd be creating too much overlap.
Well sentinel in SWTOR is a 2 saber guy so that is what i am thinking.
7 minutes ago, Daeglan said:Well sentinel in SWTOR is a 2 saber guy so that is what i am thinking.
I'm not familiar with how SWtOR handled it, but KotOR was more in line with how they're portrayed here.
After thinking about this if they only do 2 more specialization for the Jedi Career, then I wonder if we may get the Master as the next progression on their current path. Then the 4th as a Fallen Jedi, I think of this due to the main characters in the Fall of the Republic. The Masters on the council at the end, and Anakin who fell to the dark side. Just my thoughts of what we may see.
I working on building a talent tree for these 2 that I will try to post later, once I find the best format to use. Excel doesn't paste very well on the forum.
5 hours ago, damnkid3 said:After thinking about this if they only do 2 more specialization for the Jedi Career, then I wonder if we may get the Master as the next progression on their current path. Then the 4th as a Fallen Jedi, I think of this due to the main characters in the Fall of the Republic. The Masters on the council at the end, and Anakin who fell to the dark side. Just my thoughts of what we may see.
I working on building a talent tree for these 2 that I will try to post later, once I find the best format to use. Excel doesn't paste very well on the forum.
You might want to use the data editor in ogg dude's character generator
Remember that the title of Master is informally used when a Knight takes an apprentice, so an FR 3 "Master" specialization isn't too far out of reason. It would show that the Knight has grown in their understanding of the Force and are ready to pass on what they have learned.
I would imagine this would come in the Collapse of the Republic book, and though we might get one more, I can also see that being it (effectively completing the basic Career). From there, it wouldn't be a far cry to see a Jedi Career book (similar to the ones from other lines) that would include the other 3 Specializations. As for what those are, I would suspect they would include Specializations for roles we haven't even seen yet - those from the upcoming Trilogy by Benioff and Weiss that takes place in the Old Republic, or from Episode IX with Rey's new order if there is one. There's no reason for them to theorycraft them now with so much new possible content coming out over the next few years. They won't release the Career book anytime soon so they have time.
On 5/9/2019 at 6:01 PM, Kyla said:or from Episode IX with Rey's new order if there is one.
Or, one from Luke’s even. His academy only got destroyed some 6-7 years prior to TFA. That still leaves lots of time in which he was training Jedi.