It’s points guess time, Wave 4 edition!

By urbanyeti, in X-Wing

Hey everyone!

Whats everybody’s best guess for the base models of the upcoming ships?

I’m most excited about the n-1 and the hyena and subsequently I’m think that the n-1 base model comes in at 35 and the base hyena might be 28. Thoughts?

Those make sense to me! Resistance pod and transport are interesting... maybe Sheathipede-style pricing on the transport (32 ish?) and then super cheap on the pod (like, 22?)

Hyena is what I care about most. 26-28 seems like the place for base Hyena. I've kinda landed on 27 points for it. Basically a Torrent that can carry more stuff with a worse dial. It will be interesting to see how they cost the uniques as the Vulture uniques are widely considered to be overpriced besides maybe DFS-311.

39 minutes ago, RStan said:

Basically a Torrent that can carry more stuff with a wor  se dial.

I was going to point out how different the action bar is, but Networked Calculations is in some ways better than just a focus action (and in some ways worse--balances it nicely IMO), and the Hyena trades off evading for Ordnance-related actions. So I don't feel like that needs to be priced particularly differently.

1 hour ago, Kieransi said:

Those make sense to me! Resistance pod and transport are interesting... maybe Sheathipede-style pricing on the transport (32 ish?) and then super cheap on the pod (like, 22?)

I honestly have no idea about that one... I am curious how it slots into current resistance archetypes too.

I say that the Hyena will be 30ish. Being able to carry barrage rockets comes at a price, imo.

4 minutes ago, SavouryRain said:

I say that the Hyena will be 30ish. Being able to carry barrage rockets comes at a price, imo.

But only two of them will be able to shoot those, by the looks of things (there's a 2-pip that appears to be able to ignore focus/calc/TL restrictions).

The only way the rest can fire a [focus] missile is if the Tac Relay or another upgrade still does in fact allow it, in which case they'll be tied to the range and points of said Tac Relay/upgrade. There's an added cost already regardless of how you look at it.

Basic tie bomber is 30, so hyena with same att, agil, -1 Hull, action bar is the same just calc for focus. Basic hyena is int 1 bomber is 2. Bomber has nimble bomb hyena has network calc (which is better).

i see these guys being 25/26 points.

Yeah should be basically torrent prices.

I haven’t gotten to play much since Republic dropped - is there a consensus that the V-19s are priced correctly? Do people expect them to shift in the next update?

15 minutes ago, PaulRuddSays said:

I haven’t gotten to play much since Republic dropped - is there a consensus that the V-19s are priced correctly? Do people expect them to shift in the next update?

I don't expect them to shift, really (except for maybe Oddball?). They pretty much do what they're supposed to do as cheap cannon fodder in the 25-35 point range (depending on your pilot and upgrades.

N-1s I expect to start at 30-33 (34 if they deem 6 N-1s is too good).

Edited by Npmartian
1 hour ago, PaulRuddSays said:

I haven’t gotten to play much since Republic dropped - is there a consensus that the V-19s are priced correctly? Do people expect them to shift in the next update?

The Gold Sq Troopers are priced okay, but everything is a bit overcosted.

Expect (hope for):

Hyena: 27 (25)
N1: 34 (32)
Transport / Pod: 38 (??) / 26 (??)

Bonus round! July point changes for the wave 4 reprints:

Falcon: Prices seem mostly fine? Leia crew obviously up. Chewie and the generic could be cheaper without breaking anything I think
Decimator: down down down!
TIE /sf: everybody but Midnight down?
TIE /vn: everybody but Kylo down?
B-Wing: jesus, maybe up ? Maybe just Braylen up?

25 point hyenas would be amazing, tbh. But also maybe too cheap.

The magic number for 6 of is 33 points, and that might factor in.

21 minutes ago, Polaritie said:

The  m  agic number for 6 of is 33 points, and that might factor  in.  

Outside of the aforementioned Barrage, are any missiles in particular worth shutting down the 6-in-a-list? I’d think Ordnance would certainly have to be added to get them up to 33 points.

39 minutes ago, svelok said:

Expect (hope for):

Hyena: 27 (25)
N1: 34 (32)
Transport / Pod: 38 (??) / 26 (??)

Bonus round! July point changes for the wave 4 reprints:

Falcon: Prices seem mostly fine? Leia crew obviously up. Chewie and the generic could be cheaper without breaking anything I think
Decimator: down down down!
TIE /sf: everybody but Midnight down?
TIE /vn: everybody but Kylo down?
B-Wing: jesus, maybe up ? Maybe just Braylen up?

Midnight in an SF? I’m in!

Every SF but QuickDraw down, I’m also in. Also would love cheaper generic silencers.