I was playing a game where my vulture droid was on a rock/debris and was hit with Disabled Power Regulator. No biggy, until you realize they can't ever move.

Grappling Struts only allow them to move 2 straight to get off the rock, and by being ionized you only allowed to move 1 straight. Also, you can no longer turn because ionization doesn't let you set a dial. So my vulture ended up being a one-way-facing turret, gaining more and more ion tokens for eternity. At least he could focus now!

I hope I'm reading this correctly!

-DD

2 minutes ago, Darth Drago said:

I was playing a game where my vulture droid was on a rock/debris and was hit with Disabled Power Regulator. No biggy, until you realize they can't ever move.

Grappling Struts only allow them to move 2 straight to get off the rock, and by being ionized you only allowed to move 1 straight. Also, you can no longer turn because ionization doesn't let you set a dial. So my vulture ended up being a one-way-facing turret, gaining more and more ion tokens for eternity. At least he could focus now!

I hope I'm reading this correctly!

-DD

Struts only prevents movement on anything but a 2-straight when you -REVEAL- your dial; Ion reveals no dial so you still do the 1-straight

Edit: And while Ion prevents any actions beyond Focus, it doesn’t grant the action to those who don’t already have it, aka droids

Luckily you are not reading it correctly.

Grappling Struts says "After you reveal your dial", which you never do while ionized since you do not assign a dial to an ionized ship. Once the drone is ionized it would execute a blue 1 straight maneuver and then close its grappling struts after executing that maneuver.

Think of it as follows: A zapped droid is frozen into the position it's in (aka walking on an asteroid). Because it has no control over its struts anymore, it drifts off the rock, little blue arcs of ionization jumping here and there on it. As it leaves the rock, that cockpit-head shakes, the struts close, and it looks for a new target or its swarm-mates before getting ready to fly off in another direction.

At least, that's how it plays in my head!

At least it doesn't make him take any damage or consequences from the rock/debris, since his struts are still open until he's off. Unless you're in a really unlucky position, I suppose 😜

Ok thanks for the answer. This helps a lot.

-DD

So, the exact same thing happened to me last weekend except my droid also had "stunned pilot" (after you execute a maneuver, if you moved through or overlapped an obstacle, suffer 1 hit damage) and the ion maneuver didn't get me off the obstacle due to a bump.

I can only assume that my droid BSoD'd, drifted off the obstacle, rebooted inside the arrays of a TIE and over-corrected back into the dirt.

Now that I think about it, grappling struts might have saved me by ignoring obstacles in terms of "stunned pilot", I have pictures of it all but can't seem to upload at the moment

41 minutes ago, HealOverTime said:

So, the exact same thing happened to me last weekend except my droid also had "stunned pilot" (after you execute a maneuver, if you moved through or overlapped an obstacle, suffer 1 hit damage) and the ion maneuver didn't get me off the obstacle due to a bump.

I can only assume that my droid BSoD'd, drifted off the obstacle, rebooted inside the arrays of a TIE and over-corrected back into the dirt.

Now that I think about it, grappling struts might have saved me by ignoring obstacles in terms of "stunned pilot", I have pictures of it all but can't seem to upload at the moment

grappling struts do not let you avoid the damage from stunned pilot. you ignore the effects and obstruction of obstacles, but you are still overlapping. the damage from stunned pilot is from the damage card, not from the obstacle.

13 hours ago, meffo said:

grappling struts do not let you avoid the damage from stunned pilot. you ignore the effects and obstruction of obstacles, but you are still overlapping. the damage from stunned pilot is from the damage card, not from the obstacle.

Nah. "You ignore obstacles at range 0 and while you move through them." As far as Stunned Pilot is concerned, there isn't anything there.

2 hours ago, lordvorkon said:

Nah. "You ignore obstacles at range 0 and while you move through them." As far as Stunned Pilot is concerned, there isn't anything there.

Ignore means to ignore the effects of. A ship still overlaps an obstacle it is ignoring.

7 hours ago, lordvorkon said:

Nah. "You ignore obstacles at range 0 and while you move through them." As far as Stunned Pilot is concerned, there isn't anything there.

that's exactly it. stunned pilot is the source of the effect, not the obstacle. stunned pilot doesn't ignore the obstacle just because the ship does. stunned pilot cares.

19 hours ago, meffo said:

that's exactly it. stunned pilot is the source of the effect, not the obstacle. stunned pilot doesn't ignore the obstacle just because the ship does. stunned pilot cares.

Looking at the damage card, I'm not sure that Stunned Pilot would care, after all. Remember, Grappling Struts instructs you to skip your execute maneuver step, so there's no maneuver to execute, and therefore no trigger for Stunned Pilot to go off of. That said, as soon as you perform an Ion maneuver, or finally dial a 2-straight, you're gonna take the damage.

7 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

Looking at the damage card, I'm not sure that Stunned Pilot would care, after all. Remember, Grappling Struts instructs you to skip your execute maneuver step, so there's no maneuver to execute, and therefore no trigger for Stunned Pilot to go off of. That said, as soon as you perform an Ion maneuver, or finally dial a 2-straight, you're gonna take the damage.

i'm not saying stunned pilot cares about a drone sitting on top of debris. it's when it maneuvers off it kicks in. in this case we were talking about an ion maneuver. it's still possible to barrel roll off a rock with you action with struts open and then maneuver somewhere else during the next round as well, without taking damage.