9 minutes ago, Platinum_V said:We have seen that interceptor in Resistance, we haven't seen the NEW interceptor/silencer hybrid from the tRoS trailer.
FO is going to be the shuttle and interceptor faction with at least 3 of each (counting the Silencer as an interceptor)
forgot resistance was even a thing. fair enough
9 minutes ago, SabineKey said:Considering how many ships X-Wing got from Rebels, I’d bet it’s only a matter of time before we see an FO Interceptor in game. Plus, we already have a named pilot who will probably slot in at i5 or i6 named Elrik Vonreg.
So I haven't watched Resistance. Does that show specify if Vonreg's ship is a prototype or one-of-a-kind? If it's supposed to be a ship that the FO has a lot of, but they let this guy paint because he's an ace, my thought is that maybe FFG wants to see what they look like when they aren't painted red. I dunno though, just throwing out ideas.
6 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:FFG wants to see what they look like when they aren't painted red
Black with white solar panels (think TIE/fo), possibly a red stripe if it is an elite ship like the TIE/sf.
I mean, what else would it look like?
2 minutes ago, Woorloog said:I mean , what else would it look like ?
I would assume you're right, but I thought maybe they're playing it safe until there's a second example of the ship on screen. If we haven't seen it, there's always the chance that it's grey or something else for its stock paint job, even if it is remote.
3 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:So I haven't watched Resistance. Does that show specify if Vonreg's ship is a prototype or one-of-a-kind? If it's supposed to be a ship that the FO has a lot of, but they let this guy paint because he's an ace, my thought is that maybe FFG wants to see what they look like when they aren't painted red. I dunno though, just throwing out ideas.
From what I remember they just call it "new" never specifying if it's a prototype or what. From a behind the scenes perspective Vonreg is inspired by the Red Baron, so it might be a unique ship in that sense. So while you're right they might be holding off for that reason I hope we still get it in the red paint job.
1 minute ago, Hippie Moosen said:So I haven't watched Resistance. Does that show specify if Vonreg's ship is a prototype or one-of-a-kind? If it's supposed to be a ship that the FO has a lot of, but they let this guy paint because he's an ace, my thought is that maybe FFG wants to see what they look like when they aren't painted red. I dunno though, just throwing out ideas.
Nope. None I can recall.
And while there is plenty of reason to wait on it for X-Wing, I don’t thing “prototype” or “one-of-a-kind” is really that big a problem. The TIE Advanced v1 was a prototype, but got generics. The Silencer seems to have only been flown by Kylo and pilots FFG invented, so though in the movies it seems one of a kind, it has been expanded for more.
4 minutes ago, SabineKey said:Nope. None I can recall.
And while there is plenty of reason to wait on it for X-Wing, I don’t thing “prototype” or “one-of-a-kind” is really that big a problem. The TIE Advanced v1 was a prototype, but got generics. The Silencer seems to have only been flown by Kylo and pilots FFG invented, so though in the movies it seems one of a kind, it has been expanded for more.
To add on to your point the Slave I was a unique ship, in Legends it was a prototype that Jango destroyed the rest of so it is the only one. And as far as I know the TIE Advanced X1 is only flown by Vader similar to the Silencer being Kylo's.
42 minutes ago, Vontoothskie said:wow, youre projecting some baggage there dude.
never claimed to own Disney Corp., have control over ship design, etc.
clearly my opinions about a ship are my opinions, no need to get weird about it.
In my 2 viewings of TFA I saw zero indication that any of the ties were different at all, antena aside. Some of the toys sold for the movie didnt make the distinction either. the cockpits are the same size according to Disney, they have the same wingspan, etc.
its like saying the E250 Ford transit cargo van and E250bford transit passenger van are different vehicles cause 1 has some extra seats and a window. theyre different models of the same product... like Scyk and Heavy Scyk
The problem is that while you are entitled to your opinions, you don’t fact check them. Take your assertion else where on this forum about the armaments of the Gauntlet Fighter. It was impressive, but didn’t match canon sources other people were looking at for the ship. And when asked to cite your source as to the armaments, you didn’t answer.
So, now you dismiss two canon ships as the same thing, despite fact checking. There is a strange disregard for actual facts. If that’s how you like it, that’s all on you. But expecting people to accept things you haven’t proven or disregard is a little presumptuous.
46 minutes ago, SabineKey said:And while there is plenty of reason to wait on it for X-Wing, I don’t thing “prototype” or “one-of-a-kind” is really that big a problem. The TIE Advanced v1 was a prototype, but got generics. The Silencer seems to have only been flown by Kylo and pilots FFG invented, so though in the movies it seems one of a kind, it has been expanded for more .
I was thinking that if it has a stock paint job that's what FFG would want to make first, since the FO likes to do Red accents on some of their ships in spots different from where the Empire typically placed them. Gotta make sure those mini's look screen accurate or some people get annoyed. The Tie Advanced v1 was a prototype as well, but we did get to see more than one on screen, with all of them looking the same. I couldn't remember if the Inquisitor's tie expansion was released before or after that happened though, hence the idea.
38 minutes ago, Platinum_V said:To add on to your point the Slave I was a unique ship, in Legends it was a prototype that Jango destroyed the rest of so it is the only one. And as far as I know the TIE Advanced X1 is only flown by Vader similar to the Silencer being Kylo's.
Isn't the Firespray a mass produced ship? I figured they went with Boba's paint job because it was the most iconic. Like making the YT-1300's all different versions of the Falcon. Oh well, that doesn't really matter in the end. The Silencer and X-1 definitely feel more unique despite both having generics in this game, so a red FO interceptor with generic pilots shouldn't be weird at all for X-wing.
Edited by Hippie Moosen19 minutes ago, Platinum_V said:To add on to your point the Slave I was a unique ship, in Legends it was a prototype that Jango destroyed the rest of so it is the only one. And as far as I know the TIE Advanced X1 is only flown by Vader similar to the Silencer being Kylo's.
Plus, the Falcon is a one of a kind ship, but has been used as the baseline for the YT-1300 for X-Wing. They tried to make a stock YT-1300 in the Outer Rim Smuggler back in 1.0, but abandoned that for 2.0.
2 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:I was thinking that if it has a stock paint job that's what FFG would want to make first, since the FO likes to do Red accents on some of their ships in spots different from where the Empire typically placed them. Gotta make sure those mini's look screen accurate or some people get annoyed. The Tie Advanced v1 was a prototype as well, but we did get to see more than one on screen, with all of them looking the same. I couldn't remember if the Inquisitor's tie expansion was released before or after that happened though, hence the idea.
And that’s not bad logic, I just don’t think it’s the thing holding the FO Interceptor back. I’d believe more in it being backburnered because they’ve been told to work on something else for FO, like an Epi. 9 tie-in than its paint job holding it back.
4 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:Isn't the Firespray a mass produced ship? I figured they went with Boba's paint job because it was the most iconic. Like making the YT-1300's all different versions of the Falcon.
It is in Canon.
3 minutes ago, SabineKey said:Plus, the Falcon is a one of a kind ship, but has been used as the baseline for the YT-1300 for X-Wing. They tried to make a stock YT-1300 in the Outer Rim Smuggler back in 1.0, but abandoned that for 2.0.
I always thought the differentiation between a stock YT-1300 and the Falcon was a cool concept in 1e. I wonder if they removed the differences to avoid confusion and/or people forgetting which one they were playing. I gotta be honest, I wish they would have kept them different.
2 minutes ago, Hippie Moosen said:Isn't the Firespray a mass produced ship? I figured they went with Boba's paint job because it was the most iconic. Like making the YT-1300's all different versions of the Falcon. Oh well, that doesn't really matter in the end. The Silencer and X-1 definitely feel more unique despite both have generics in this game, so a red FO interceptor with generic pilots shouldn't be weird at all for X-wing.
I'm speaking strictly based off my knowledge from the video game Bounty Hunter in which it is one of 6 prototypes, and Fett destroys the other 5. I've never seen any sources to say that say it was a mass produced ship but I'm by no means an expert.
9 minutes ago, thomedwards said:I always thought the differentiation between a stock YT-1300 and the Falcon was a cool concept in 1e. I wonder if they removed the differences to avoid confusion and/or people forgetting which one they were playing. I gotta be honest, I wish they would have kept them different.
They probably changed it because the lesser ship would never be deemed "competitive." It's the same reason they have never made a 0-attack or 1-attack ship.
All of which would be excellent flavor elements in the game, IMHO.
I did play with the idea, recently:
Edited by Darth Meanie
3 minutes ago, thomedwards said:I always thought the differentiation between a stock YT-1300 and the Falcon was a cool concept in 1e. I wonder if they removed the differences to avoid confusion and/or people forgetting which one they were playing. I gotta be honest, I wish they would have kept them different.
It was and I think with 2.0s changes (point adjustment in-particular), a stock YT-13 could have been viable. But I can understand not wanting to complicate things from a gameplay standpoint.
5 minutes ago, thomedwards said:I always thought the differentiation between a stock YT-1300 and the Falcon was a cool concept in 1e. I wonder if they removed the differences to avoid confusion and/or people forgetting which one they were playing. I gotta be honest, I wish they would have kept them different.
In a way they did. The more "stock" version just ended up in Scum instead.
2 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:In a way they did. The more "stock" version just ended up in Scum instead.
That's fair. Lando's customization seemed to be primarily comfort based, aside from the escape craft, but that requires the title in game, so works out.
2 minutes ago, SabineKey said:That's fair. Lando's customization seemed to be primarily comfort based, aside from the escape craft, but that requires the title in game, so works out.
"Escape Craft" lol, I'm going to find FFG calling it that funny for awhile. It's a modified cargo tug. The tug itself was designed to ride along on a YT-1300 in Canon.
Just now, Hiemfire said:"Escape Craft" lol, I'm going to find FFG calling it that funny for awhile. It's a modified cargo tug. The tug itself was designed to ride along on a YT-1300 in Canon.
I believe that’s what Lando referred to it as in the movie. And this wouldn’t be the first time FFG had to make an expansion with incomplete data.
Just now, SabineKey said:I believe that’s what Lando referred to it as in the movie. And this wouldn’t be the first time FFG had to make an expansion with incomplete data.
I doubt it'll be the last either.
Just now, Hiemfire said:I doubt it'll be the last either.
Probably not. Heh, at least the TIE Heavy is getting time to incubate.
59 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:"Escape Craft" lol, I'm going to find FFG calling it that funny for awhile. It's a modified cargo tug. The tug itself was designed to ride along on a YT-1300 in Canon.
Yea, its one of the reasons that I wish they didn't need to do film tie ins so that the ships would be more accurate representations of their film/Television/video game counterpart. Also probably the reason that Becket isn't a gunner option.
1 hour ago, SabineKey said:Probably not. Heh, at least the TIE Heavy is getting time to incubate.
Time to incubate??
A barrel of Scotch gets done faster.
3 minutes ago, Darth Meanie said:Time to incubate??
A barrel of Scotch gets done faster.
Depends on the scotch.