He was decloaked and shrugged off a 4 damage Procket from my A-Wing.

Maul decloaks.

DFS-311 hands calculate to Maul.

My Procket puts out 4 damage.

He rolles one agility into nattie evade.

Uses K2-B4 to add a second evade result.

Uses Grievous to cancel one of my two remaining hits.

Takes 1 shield.

*(I was so dazed that I forgot to take a strain on my A-Wing to negate K2B4s evade, but still... This felt pretttty bad.)

____________

#won't fall for that again

#would'vefeltworseifhespentaforceon his1greendicethengothisforcebackwithmyonedamage

#broken

#queoverreactseverywhere

#nobutseriouslythiswasridiculous

So, the whining begins. 😁

Isn't it obvious? Darth Maul can only ever take half damage.

Yeah, Maul is hard to kill, you need to focus fire on him with all your ships if you can.

Just now, Wrecker01 said:

Yeah, Maul is hard to kill, you need to focus fire on him with all your ships if you can.

And avoid killing others to avoid recharging Grievous. What a card.

If only the empire had something like that.

Why are you shooting Maul first?! Summoning @Ablazoned to rant about why Maul is unhappy when he loses 1-2 friends per round...

23 minutes ago, player3010587 said:

Why  are you shooting Maul first?! Summoning @Ablazoned to rant about why  Maul is unhappy when he loses 1-2 friends per round... 

Maul is SO SAD when you can init kill multiple vultures per round. Any list with good range control (read, afterburners) and punch (read, multiple attack mods and or pro torps) can do so. It doesn't matter how many calculates you have if wedge throws hhcc your way!

And ion, too! And I4 or I5 y-wing just rises above the Vultures.

47 minutes ago, Bucknife said:

He was decloaked and shrugged off a 4 damage Procket from my A-Wing.

Maul decloaks.

DFS-311 hands calculate to Maul.

My Procket puts out 4 damage.

He rolles one agility into nattie evade.

Uses K2-B4 to add a second evade result.

Uses Grievous to cancel one of my two remaining hits.

Takes 1 shield.

*(I was so dazed that I forgot to take a strain on my A-Wing to negate K2B4s evade, but still... This felt pretttty bad.)

____________

#won't fall for that again

#would'vefeltworseifhespentaforceon his1greendicethengothisforcebackwithmyonedamage

#broken

#queoverreactseverywhere

#nobutseriouslythiswasridiculous

So how many of those buffs did he get when you shot him the second time...womp womp

Yeah, it seems ******** starts before thought and logic are utilized. Granted, I'll freely admit, sometimes our beautiful game has given we the little people comically broken stuff; but this my friend, isn't one of them, not in the least.

...go get some tea, it's amazing stuff.

1 hour ago, Bucknife said:

My Procket puts out 4 damage.

He rolles one agility into nattie evade.

Uses K2-B4 to add a second evade result.

 Uses Grievous to cancel one of my two remaining hits. 

Natties gonna nattie, you could've opted into the Strain, and Grievous did exactly as much work as a shield upgrade would have... 😀

Wow, came into the post expecting to see I expected to see Dooku/Hate mentioned. Haven't encountered DFS-311  / K2-B4 yet.

Maul/Hate/Dooku/Grevious is pretty rough. That build is undercosted, but the vultures are over-costed, so it all balances out for the time being.

12 minutes ago, prauxim said:

Wow, came into the post expecting to see I expected to see Dooku/Hate mentioned. Haven't encountered DFS-311  / K2-B4 yet.

Maul/Hate/Dooku/Grevious is pretty rough. That build is undercosted, but the vultures are over-costed , so it all balances out for the time being.

...uhhhh, ok

6 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

...uhhhh, ok

The chassis itself is overcosted, pretty obvious compared to an Academy Pilot. Straight vultures with shells get destroyed by a howl swarm. The lists as a whole works because of the support pieces, which makes sense thematically.

15 minutes ago, prauxim said:

The chassis itself is overcosted, pretty obvious compared to an Academy Pilot. Straight vultures with shells get destroyed by a howl swarm. The lists as a whole works because of the support pieces, which makes sense thematically.

I've had no issues running pure Vultures with no support. In fact, the more support I traded for Vultures, the better the list got. I think a lot of people (including myself before I started heavily iteratin on CIS lists) are jumping the gun super hard on calling Vultures overcosted.

2 minutes ago, MasterShake2 said:

I've had no issues running pure Vultures with no support. In fact, the more support I traded for Vultures, the better the list got. I think a lot of people (including myself before I started heavily iteratin on CIS lists) are jumping the gun super hard on calling Vultures overcosted.

I've got pretty strong opinions on naked vultures, but ESC vultures are just something I'm waiting for tournament results to tell us more about. So far, not many CIS lists have made cut, and a lot of those were double infiltrator lists, but in time that could change.

1 hour ago, clanofwolves said:

...go get some tea, it's amazing stuff.

"Go get" tea sounds a tad more aggressive than other means of acquiring said brewed beverage. I take it that you are an Imperial player?

I half expected the Infiltrator have Dooku crew as well.

I played a game on Back to Dials' stream at the Cheyenne Hyperspace Trial with my rebel swarm vs. double infiltrators. In the initial salvo Dooku jousted right in there into the swarm and only took a couple shields (cloak+three force+hate). He's a really tanky ship and I have to admit I was extremely worried when I saw that happen. (that was also an awesome game btw, thanks again to my opponent if he's on these forums somewhere!)

2 hours ago, clanofwolves said:

Yeah, it seems b***hing starts before thought and logic are utilized. Granted, I'll freely admit, sometimes our beautiful game has given we the little people comically broken stuff; but this my friend, isn't one of them, not in the least.

...go get some tea, it's amazing stuff.

I prefer Irish Cream...but tea can be just fine!

This scenario I mentioned was just all th right stuff at the right time. New experience. Didn't see it coming. Wasn't able to fire with anyone else. Forgot the strain clause.

#flybetter

It was a learning experience, for sure! I'm absolutely adjusting my squads for this meta.

40 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

I half expected the Infiltrator have Dooku crew as well.

Seriously. Its scary that this engagement could've been WORSE.

He had an empty crew slot.

Palp could've handed me a stress for proper insult to injury.

#fearthepalp

2 hours ago, Kieransi said:

I played a game on Back to Dials' stream at the Cheyenne Hyperspace Trial with my rebel swarm vs. double infiltrators. In the initial salvo Dooku jousted right in there into the swarm and only took a couple shields (cloak+three force+hate). He's a really tanky ship and I have to admit I was extremely worried when I saw that happen. (that was also an awesome game btw, thanks again to my opponent if he's on these forums somewhere!)

I saw that game - I don't know how u won

2 hours ago, Bucknife said:

Palp could've  handed me a stress for proper insult to injury. 

Palp is generally very overcosted and not very good. Now, perhaps, in a Maul list he may be ok, but every time I’ve tried him in Republic I am extremely unimpressed. Every single game I feel I would be better off with those points spent on my Jedi/ Arcs.

16 minutes ago, millertime059 said:

Palp is generally very overcosted and not very good. Now, perhaps, in a Maul list he may be ok, but every time I’ve tried him in Republic I am extremely unimpressed. Every single game I feel I would be better off with those points spent on my Jedi/ Arcs.

As a Resistance player, I can vouch that a double-stressed, tokenless Heroic-Optics-RZ2 or a tokenless Poe is a very sad RZ or Poe.

So I learned from a Republic player flying a Palp ARC with his Jedi.

Very tricksey.

Just now, Bucknife said:

As a Resistance player, I can vouch that a double-stressed, tokenless Heroic-Optics-RZ2 or a tokenless Poe is a very sad RZ or Poe.

So I learned from a Republic player flying a Palp ARC with his Jedi.

Very tricksey.

Yeah but the popular Rebel Beef archetype doesn’t care.

Like Palp would be fine at a lower cost. But at 14 points is way too much for such a situational card. Can he be game changing in the right situation? Sure. But you don’t pay 14 points for a card that may be useful in 1/3 of your matches rather than spend those points on an upgrade for each of your aces that is useful every game.

I dunno, I feel like if 2-3 ship ace lists were bigger, this might be a big deal, but Republic and Rebel beef, TIE Swarms and Vulture Swarms are pretty well matched to this build.