4 hours ago, Oldpara said:

2 double tap Ion Scurrgs

^^^^^ This.

As a base for scum lists I'm using the above at 106 points. Or two scurrgs with dorsals and VTG at 102 points.

Fill in the remainder with what you want.

The two scurrgs form a very real threat that can't be ignored.

PS: Great flying at Chicago, by the way.

The only problem with juke and quad phantoms is juke is only 5pts per ship. Juke, like many many upgrades (most all ordinance for example) should get increased per # in your squad. 5pts for first juke, 7pts next juke, 9pts. Running just whisper or echo in you imp squad with juke aint the problem. Its spamming crap. Spam spam spam makes the NPE lists. Wish FFG would figure this **** out. One ship with proton torps is not the problem. Its 3 or 4 of them.

One ywing with ion and vtg is a good ship, not a problem. 5 ion turrets = problem. Should cost 1 extra pt per ion turret in a squad , 4pts + 5pts + 6pts + 7pts + 8pts = 30pts instead of 20pts in 5yion list.

8 hours ago, wurms said:

The only problem with juke and quad phantoms is juke is only 5pts per ship. Juke, like many many upgrades (most all ordinance for example) should get increased per # in your squad. 5pts for first juke, 7pts next juke, 9pts. Running just whisper or echo in you imp squad with juke aint the problem. Its spamming crap. Spam spam spam makes the NPE lists. Wish FFG would figure this **** out. One ship with proton torps is not the problem. Its 3 or 4 of them.

One ywing with ion and vtg is a good ship, not a problem. 5 ion turrets = problem. Should cost 1 extra pt per ion turret in a squad , 4pts + 5pts + 6pts + 7pts + 8pts = 30pts instead of 20pts in 5yion list.

^^^^^ Agreed. It can be kind of like alcohol.

Hey, be careful with that logic. No one ever complained about 4 Gunboats with Proton torpedos!