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Posted at 2019-04-03 13:17:13+00:00

Hi Guys,

I tried one Wat Tambor list with a bunch of the Limited Vultures and nothing else, but didn't care for it. Limited are bad and I missed ESC. Also, I deployed in a corner and think I should deploy in the middle.

So, my first list after that continues in the same vein, but with more ECS.

Belbullab-22 Starfighter - •Wat Tambor - 69
•Wat Tambor - Techno Union Foreman (43)
Impervium Plating (6)
• Soulless One (10)
•Kraken (10)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Separatist Drone - 26
Separatist Drone - (22)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - •DFS-311 - 27
•DFS-311 - Scouting Drone (24)
Grappling Struts (Closed) (3)

Total: 200/200

Lots of I3 guys with ECS and Butterbot. He gets Grapplers to jump on a rock and hang out to give Calc tokens.

I had points left over and didn't know what to spend them on. Can't get higher Init. Bought Soulless One for Wat. Don't think he needs it as most people gun for the Droids. Not sure what else to do with it.

I did have problems with Vultures being one shot, even with their Calc tokens. So, I had the idea to try K2-B4 and see if he could keep the Vultures alive more often. I think even staying alive with 1 Hull is better than getting one shot dead. So...

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - •DFS-311 - 24
•DFS-311 - Scouting Drone (24)

Belbullab-22 Starfighter - •Wat Tambor - 56
•Wat Tambor - Techno Union Foreman (43)
Trick Shot (2)
Impervium Plating (6)
•K2-B4 (5)

Total: 200/200

With the extra points I can afford more. If I drop to I1 Trade Droids, I can get a whole new ship in. K2 will help these guys stay alive longer, even if they can't use their Calc tokens to fire ESC that turn. They might be alive enough to shoot next turn. I lose Grapplers on Butterbot, which is OK. Also lose Soulless One for Wat, which I think is a waste.

So, I would like to give these guys a try! Thoughts?

Posted at 2019-04-03 14:04:39+00:00

47 minutes ago, heychadwick said:

Belbullab-22 Starfighter - •Wat Tambor - 69
•Wat Tambor - Techno Union Foreman (43)
Impervium Plating (6)
• Soulless One (10)
•Kraken (10)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Separatist Drone - 26
Separatist Drone - (22)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Separatist Drone - 26
Separatist Drone - (22)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Separatist Drone - 26
Separatist Drone - (22)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Separatist Drone - 26
Separatist Drone - (22)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - •DFS-311 - 27
•DFS-311 - Scouting Drone (24)
Grappling Struts (Closed) (3)

Total: 200/200

Overall it looks good, but I don't know if investing so many points in Wat works. You can field 0-66 with Kraken and Scimitar for the same points. As we have discussed Kraken v K2-B4 is a decision to make. In the build it can go both ways.

As a sidenote. If You'd drop Separatits Drones to Trade Federation ones and You drop both upgrades on Wat, You can fit another Trade Federation Drone... which looks awfully similar to:

47 minutes ago, heychadwick said:

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - Trade Federation Drone - 24
Trade Federation Drone - (20)
Energy-Shell Charges (4)

Vulture -class Droid Fighter - •DFS-311 - 24
•DFS-311 - Scouting Drone (24)

Belbullab-22 Starfighter - •Wat Tambor - 56
•Wat Tambor - Techno Union Foreman (43)
Trick Shot (2)
Impervium Plating (6)
•K2-B4 (5)

Total: 200/200

Which I see as a better version The only scenario that the first list is better is against similar swarm when I3 really kicks in and in the first engagement erases 1 ship deficit. I see the first one as a hard counter to the second one actually

One more thing. K2-B4 seems to be better suited for a droid pilot so Feethan Ottraw Autopilot or 0-66 as it does not give Calculate action. Something small to remember.

Edited April 3, 2019 by BoskiChe

Posted at 2019-04-03 14:20:16+00:00

That second list is looking mighty fine to my eyes. I'm always a fan of more, TFD vultures than fewer sep vultures

Posted at 2019-04-03 15:05:11+00:00

1 hour ago, BoskiChe said:

Overall it looks good, but I don't know if investing so many points in Wat works. You can field 0-66 with Kraken and Scimitar for the same points. As we have discussed Kraken v K2-B4 is a decision to make. In the build it can go both ways.

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One more thing. K2-B4 seems to be better suited for a droid pilot so Feethan Ottraw Autopilot or 0-66 as it does not give Calculate action. Something small to remember.

I don't own and don't want to own the Sith Infiltrator. I just don't like it.

Yes, the Feethan Outlaw can use K2, but I don't think he needs it. Few shoot at the Buick as they can take out Droids faster. Also, I like Wat Tambor's ability to ensure he gets the hits in. As stated, I had 10 pts to spend and thought the best use was the title upgrade.

44 minutes ago, Greebwahn said:

That second list is looking mighty fine to my eyes. I'm always a fan of more, TFD vultures than fewer sep vultures

I am more into Separatist Droids over Trade Fed guys. That I3 is a big difference. Its not just good against other swarms, as @BoskiChe suggests. It works for a lot. There are generic Jedi and generic V-19's. Also lots of other ships from other factions. Separatist Droids have won me games where Trade Bots would have lost many times. The only reason I would go with them now would be due to K2.

Edited April 3, 2019 by heychadwick

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