Grapling Struts (Closed) reads:

While you execute a manuever, if you overlap an asteroid or debris cloud and there are 1 or fewer other friendly ships at range 0 of that obstacle, you may flip this card.

So, if the condition is met, the timing window for this ability is "while you execute a maneuver", and it goes to the ability queue. But taking the effect of the obstacle has the same timing window (rules reference, p 13). And since game effects allways are resolved first, you still have to roll damage before you can flip it.

Please tell me I'm wrong?

2 minutes ago, Yearfire said:

But taking the effect of the obstacle has the same timing window

no it doesnt.

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Asteroid: After executing the maneuver

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Debris Cloud: After the Check Difficulty step

both of which occur after the timing of "while you execute a maneuver".

8 minutes ago, Yearfire said:

Grapling Struts (Closed) reads:

While you execute a manuever, if you overlap an asteroid or debris cloud and there are 1 or fewer other friendly ships at range 0 of that obstacle, you may flip this card.

So, if the condition is met, the timing window for this ability is "while you execute a maneuver", and it goes to the ability queue. But taking the effect of the obstacle has the same timing window (rules reference, p 13). And since game effects allways are resolved first, you still have to roll damage before you can flip it.

Please tell me I'm wrong?

you're right with your reasoning, but your facts are wrong.

@Lyianx is 100% correct.

6 minutes ago, Lyianx said:

no it doesnt.

both of which occur after the timing of "while you execute a maneuver".

Looks like I read the obstacle section a bit quick. It opens with the "while you execute a manauver"-timing, but happens later. Thank you

1 minute ago, meffo said:

you're right with your reasoning, but your facts are wrong.

They wouldn't be considered facts then, would they?

49 minutes ago, Yearfire said:

Looks like I read the obstacle section a bit quick. It opens with the "while you execute a manauver"-timing, but happens later. Thank you

They wouldn't be considered facts then, would they?

i don't know. fake facts are still facts. facts are subjective. maybe. no. you're still right.