Palp MSU?!

By DunaMoose, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

One of the primary tenets that I follow while listbuilding is "If [commander] gives a benefit for an [event] then I want that [event] to happen as many times as possible."

After walking with the Grand Admiral I turned and to my surprise, the Senate himself appeared...

Name: Senatorial Business
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Emperor Palpatine

Assault: Opening Salvo
Defense: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation: Solar Corona

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Emperor Palpatine (35)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
• Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
= 108 Points

Raider I (44)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• External Racks (3)
= 58 Points

Raider I (44)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• External Racks (3)
= 58 Points

Raider I (44)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• External Racks (3)
= 58 Points

Raider I (44)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• External Racks (3)
= 58 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7)
= 30 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7)
= 30 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 400

Suggestions always welcome!

I think Palpatine is better against targets you will shoot several times. This benefits from targets discarding defence tokens due to the ultra Intel officer commander effects. Raiders however tend to not stick around, they launch fast strikes of one good shot expending the E-Rax and then often run.

A DTT Arquitens costs only one point more than each of your raiders so you could go for replacing 3-4 raiders with kittens and have a porcupine formation bristling with red dice and Palpatine hurting evades, then braces then redirects etc. The extra reach of red dice Arquitens allows them to combine fire on one target piling on the pressure as it has to discard defence tokens rapidly. Drop the Intel officer for captain Needa to free up points or a Slicer for a coms net.

Alternatively, to stick with the raiders, change one raider into Demolisher, ACM, OE and drop Palpatine and the Intel officer for Jerjerrod.

Opening Salvo could be fine in a 4-5 Arquitens list but the Raider version may suffer early losses due to Cymoon or Ackbar red dice volleys before the raiders launch their initial shots. Still you have 7 ships so that's 14 extra black dice if you can pull it off. Most wanted may be a safer alternative.

Edited by Mad Cat
On 4/2/2019 at 2:30 AM, Mad Cat said:

I think Palpatine is better against targets you will shoot several times. This benefits from targets discarding defence tokens due to the ultra Intel officer commander effects. Raiders however tend to not stick around, they launch fast strikes of one good shot expending the E-Rax and then often run.

A DTT Arquitens costs only one point more than each of your raiders so you could go for replacing 3-4 raiders with kittens and have a porcupine formation bristling with red dice and Palpatine hurting evades, then braces then redirects etc. The extra reach of red dice Arquitens allows them to combine fire on one target piling on the pressure as it has to discard defence tokens rapidly. Drop the Intel officer for captain Needa to free up points or a Slicer for a coms net.

Alternatively, to stick with the raiders, change one raider into Demolisher, ACM, OE and drop Palpatine and the Intel officer for Jerjerrod.

Opening Salvo could be fine in a 4-5 Arquitens list but the Raider version may suffer early losses due to Cymoon or Ackbar red dice volleys before the raiders launch their initial shots. Still you have 7 ships so that's 14 extra black dice if you can pull it off. Most wanted may be a safer alternative.

Maybe this? (Dropped a raider and replaced the rest with kittens)

Name: Senatorial Business
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Emperor Palpatine

Assault: Opening Salvo
Defense: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation: Solar Corona

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Emperor Palpatine (35)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
• Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
= 108 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
= 68 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
= 68 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Intel Officer (7)
• Turbolaser Reroute Circuits (7)
= 68 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
= 23 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
= 23 Points

Squadrons:
• Maarek Stele (21)
• Colonel Jendon (20)
= 41 Points

Total Points: 399

I don't need a bid, because either they get out activated or they face brutal objectives...

Edited by DunaMoose
reason for not bidding

I get what you are trying to do, but man is that expensive... palp+ intel is really brutal, but I would cut some of those points to add other upgrades.

This is my base plan for this type of list:

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7)
= 30 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7) (or cut)
= 30 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Emperor Palpatine (35)
• Captain Brunson (5)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 104 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 341

2 hours ago, Cleto0 said:

I get what you are trying to do, but man is that expensive... palp+ intel is really brutal, but I would cut some of those points to add other upgrades.

This is my base plan for this type of list:

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7)
= 30 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Slicer Tools (7) (or cut)
= 30 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Emperor Palpatine (35)
• Captain Brunson (5)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 104 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Arquitens Light Cruiser (54)
• Dual Turbolaser Turrets (5)
= 59 Points

Squadrons:
= 0 Points

Total Points: 341

Add to this the new Choking Vader officer on a flotilla, 2 SFOs for the non flagship Arquitens and Needa & TRC for the last one.

Ciena, Valen and 2 TIE-Interceptors gets you to 400 points.

Could also make one Slicer Tools into a Comms Net (with choking Vader on board) and the other Gozanti keeps Slicers and adds the Suppressor title.

26 minutes ago, Mad Cat said:

Suppressor

How useful with Palp?

@Mad Cat

@Cleto0

Thanks for all the help guys! I'll take your suggestions into consideration (and print out choking Vader for casual games).

Edited by DunaMoose
punctuation
5 hours ago, Cleto0 said:

How useful with Palp?

Palp makes Braces discard. Enemy AFII comes at you and you and you exhaust its redirect too. Now when each Arquitens fires the Brace gets only one use as does the now red redirect. Supressor could work on several ships a turn or force enemies to play scatter roulette and try to kill it.