Is the Shadowcaster actually good now?

By Greedo_Sharpshooter, in X-Wing

It feels like its time the Shadowcaster got some prime time.

I was tinkering with a squad that uses the Shadowcaster and I came up with this...

  • Asajj Ventress (76) Hate (3)
  • Guri (63) Predator (2)
  • Old Teroch (56)

Total: 200

its got some punch but will this sort of list be competitive right now? it fits the 'high risk, high reward' mold that scum squads seem to be relying on now.

Ketsu/title is pretty solid but i personally prefer Asajj. Palob or 4-LOM could easily replace Guri in this squad. Season to personal taste.

Edited by Da_Brown_Bomber

This list made the top cut at Adepticon, so the Shadowcaster must be doing something right. :)

Talonbane Cobra + Predator
Ketsu Onyo + Maul + Shadow Caster + Fearless
Old Teroch + Predator

Edited by Jarval

I'm pretty dubious, to be honest. it's not significantly better than the Sith Infiltrator, and it's ten points more expensive.

1 hour ago, Jarval said:

This list won a Hyperspace Trial recently, so there's clearly something to the Shadowcaster. :)

Talonbane Cobra + Predator
Ketsu Onyo + Maul + Shadow Caster + Fearless
Old Teroch + Predator

How could that list win a Hyperspace Trial, when it is not Hyperspace legal?

Organiser allowed extended ships?

2 hours ago, Jarval said:

This list won a Hyperspace Trial recently, so there's clearly something to the Shadowcaster. :)

Talonbane Cobra + Predator
Ketsu Onyo + Maul + Shadow Caster + Fearless
Old Teroch + Predator

30 minutes ago, Darth Seridur said:

How could that list win a Hyperspace Trial, when it is not Hyperspace legal?

Organiser allowed extended ships?

That made the top cut at the Adepticon system open, not won a Hyperspace trial.

Oldpara flew the Talonbane version at adepticon. Looks solid. I’m not sold on Guri without a significant bid.

1 hour ago, svelok said:

That made the top cut at the Adepticon system open, not won a Hyperspace trial.

Thanks! Getting confused with all of the events happening recently. :) I've edited my post to make more sense...

Edit - I know what happened, I got confused by this ListFortress entry - same player, same list, includes the word "Hyperspace"! https://listfortress.com/tournaments/482

Edited by Jarval

I’ve gotten wrecked by Asajj+Hate+Latts Razzi. That thing is a beast to try to kill (though to be fair, I was flying an A-Wing swarm at the time, and Hatin’ Asajj just laughs at all those 2 dice attacks, especially since the A-Wings are frequently stressed)

Its a meta-call ship. At this point, it isnt a bad ship because most people are running low init generic jousters that cant dodge the front arc, so the shadow caster can keep its arc pointed frontwards and get the abilities + title to proc.

As soon as the meta shifts to Aces or alpha strikes again, then the shadow caster is back on the shelf since aces are gonna dodge your front arc, and alpha strikes will obliterate your expensive *** ship in two rounds.

Fly it while you can.

Did alright with a Hatin’ Ventress w/Maul build, though it got utterly destroyed by a Drea Swarm of double tapping Y-Wings. The lack of repositioning on the Lancer hurt a lot.

Edited by SabineKey
50 minutes ago, SabineKey said:

Did alright with a Hatin’ Ventress w/Maul build, though it got utterly destroyed by a Drea Swarm of double tapping Y-Wings. The lack of propositioning on the Lancer hurt a lot.

You should probably ask it nicely next time, maybe flowers or something else nice.

Or chocolate... ;)

imho, the issue with Guri is she needs a bid and probably a good arsenal of accompanying upgrades to operate as a true hunter-killer assassin ship. IM talking 75pts pf ur list to really shine and the game has moved to 3+ ships so her wingmen shrink in power as a result of taking her.

how about something like...

Ketsu Onyo (70)
Shadow Caster (6)

Old Teroch (56)

Fenn Rau (68)

Total: 200

light on upgrades but 3 hard hitting ships. its sort of close to the scum falcon+Old.T+Fenn archetype but gives u a tanker large ship with tractoring. seems good on paper.

I know Fenn at int 6 goes after Ketsu so won't really benefit from shooting a tractor ship but u can play him as a flanker and let Old T and Ketsu tangle with their main force?

thought?

Edited by Da_Brown_Bomber

or maybe...

Asajj Ventress (76)
Hate (3)
Perceptive Copilot (8)
Shadow Caster (6)

Captain Nym (48)
Dorsal Turret (2)
Veteran Turret Gunner (6)

Talonbane Cobra (50)
Crack Shot (1)

Total: 200

that's a. lot of point into Asajj but I like the idea of having double focus on her with force tokens. would really like to put in a coordinating ship so she can get double focus and evade so ill keep tinkering with that idea. keeping her on the table and having the ability to soak up damage is something that could work.

This is my list. I have had some success with it. I use Cilantro to switch the chute with the cloaking device. I have had fun with it in our casual games.

Ventrephant

(76) Asajj Ventress [Lancer-class Pursuit Craft]
(11) Maul
(6) Shield Upgrade
(3) Hate
(4) Rigged Cargo Chute
Points: 100

(43) Lok Revenant [Scurrg H-6 Bomber]
(1) Cikatro Vizago
(2) Dorsal Turret
(6) Veteran Turret Gunner
Points: 52

(33) Hired Gun [BTL-A4 Y-wing]
(2) Dorsal Turret
(6) Veteran Turret Gunner
(5) Cloaking Device
(2) R4 Astromech
Points: 48

Total points: 200

3 hours ago, LagJanson said:

You should probably ask it nicely next time, maybe flowers or something else nice.

Gah! Foiled by trying to type fast.