Afternoon Team,

I tried looking through the forums here on rules questions and gave up. I'm sorry if this question has been beat to death.

I was running Capt. Seevor on Friday night against my good buddy who I play with and I executed a 3 speed manouvre onto Debris. We were stuck on whether or not I could Boost (or barrel roll) off the obstacle or not as I completed my move (I had Afterburners on to allow me to boost). We opted to let it stand as the rules stated that if you finished your move on an obstacle you lost your action and thus no boost from the afterburners as it says a "boost action".

Did we play that correctly or can the Mining Ties boost/barrel roll off a asteroid/debris as it's still considered movement?

Thanks!

Just now, Vidias said:

Afternoon Team,

I tried looking through the forums here on rules questions and gave up. I'm sorry if this question has been beat to death.

I was running Capt. Seevor on Friday night against my good buddy who I play with and I executed a 3 speed manouvre onto Debris. We were stuck on whether or not I could Boost (or barrel roll) off the obstacle or not as I completed my move (I had Afterburners on to allow me to boost). We opted to let it stand as the rules stated that if you finished your move on an obstacle you lost your action and thus no boost from the afterburners as it says a "boost action".

Did we play that correctly or can the Mining Ties boost/barrel roll off a asteroid/debris as it's still considered movement?

Thanks!

A couple things:

1) Not all obstacles are the same. Debris is different from asteroids in that you do not skip your perform action step when you move through/overlap debris; you gain stress, which normally prevents actions, but if you have a way to ditch stress/perform actions anyway (like afterburners) you're good to go. Debris also does not prevent you from shooting like asteroids do. But to answer your question, if you land on a debris field, you can absolutely boost off the debris with afterburners, but you'd still get the stress and still wouldn't get your normal action.

2) You can boost/barrel roll off obstacles, provided you have a way to perform the action and the template/final position of the boost/barrel roll doesn't overlap the obstacle.

3) The perform action step is one opportunity to perform an action. Cards like Afterburners give you other opportunities to perform actions. Asteroids only make you skip your Perform Action step; they don't otherwise prevent you from performing actions. You can therefore do things like coordinate an action to a ship that is on an asteroid with no problem.

18 minutes ago, Maui. said:

A couple things:

1) Not all obstacles are the same. Debris is different from asteroids in that you do not skip your perform action step when you move through/overlap debris; you gain stress, which normally prevents actions, but if you have a way to ditch stress/perform actions anyway (like afterburners) you're good to go. Debris also does not prevent you from shooting like asteroids do. But to answer your question, if you land on a debris field, you can absolutely boost off the debris with afterburners, but you'd still get the stress and still wouldn't get your normal action.

2) You can boost/barrel roll off obstacles, provided you have a way to perform the action and the template/final position of the boost/barrel roll doesn't overlap the obstacle.

3) The perform action step is one opportunity to perform an action. Cards like Afterburners give you other opportunities to perform actions. Asteroids only make you skip your Perform Action step; they don't otherwise prevent you from performing actions. You can therefore do things like coordinate an action to a ship that is on an asteroid with no problem.

Ok I think I half understand now. So I drew this up to to try and make this clear:

The purple thing is my debris cloud 😎 So that is where I landed after I executed my 3 soft turn. Based on what information is presented while I can still shoot as it follows the debris cloud rules I still take the stress because I completed my move and landed there (whoops I didn't take my stress). I thought because I was ignoring them while I was moving through I wouldn't need to get the stress, my bad.

In this case, I can't boost or barrel roll off this obstacle because my template will over lap the debris no matter which way I put it. So I have to stay put and suffer the effects of landing on the obstacle...right?

My next question, let just say I knicked the debris on the tail end of my Tie and was able to lay the boost template down without it overlapping. Would I still have to suffer the effects of landing on it for the brief moment in time? Can you lay out the sequence of events that would transpire in that given scenario?

Thanks so much!

Just now, Vidias said:

Ok I think I half understand now. So I drew this up to to try and make this clear:

The purple thing is my debris cloud 😎 So that is where I landed after I executed my 3 soft turn. Based on what information is presented while I can still shoot as it followed the debris cloud rules i still take the stress because I completed my move and landed there (whoops I didn't take my stress). I thought because I was ignoring them while I was moving through I wouldn't need to get the stress, my bad.

In this case, I can't boost or barrel roll off this obstacle because my template will over lap the debris no matter which way I put it. So in this case I have to stay put and suffer the effects of landing on the obstacle...right?

My next question, let just say I knicked the debris on the tail end of my Tie and was able to lay the boost template down without it overlapping. Would I still have to suffer the effects of landing on it for the brief moment in time? Can you lay out the sequence of events that would transpire in that given scenario?

Thanks so much!

Afterburners works period as long as you meet the trigger conditions. The MGT's ability doesn't with debris fields, specifies asteroids.

Right. What an over sight that was. Sorry.

It seems I was treating it as an asteroid and misreading the MGT ability. Dang. So what would happen if my debris field was an asteroid instead. Would anything be different than how I ultimately played it in the end?

If it was an asteroid, you ignore it whilst moving, and skipping your action is a function of moving over it, so you get your action step, and repositioning is also moving, so you can boost/roll freely over it. If you have ABs you can boost off then get your normal action.

Easy mistake to make so no worries.