What the heck am I supposed to do with these torrents?

By AdmiralAckbar96, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Hi all!

I recently got two Guardians of the Republic expansion packs. I love the aethersprite, but have absolutely no idea what to do with the torrents. They’re crying for some sort of missile, but concussions just don’t seem to do the trick, and two dice otherwise is just... meh. They don’t have the action economy or support boasted by the empire and separatists. Here’s about the best that I’ve been able to come up with:

(51) Plo Koon [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(13) Battle Meditation
(8) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 72

(25) Gold Squadron Trooper [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
(2) Synchronized Console
Points: 33

(25) Gold Squadron Trooper [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
Points: 31

(25) Gold Squadron Trooper [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
(2) Synchronized Console
Points: 33

(25) Gold Squadron Trooper [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
Points: 31

Total points: 200

The 4 gold’s roll up, each focusing. Plo Koon gives the two with synchronized console a lock. All can then use their concussion missiles for a decent string of attacks.

I’m just not feeling it, though. There’s a lot that could go wrong here, and the torrents die quickly. The ARC just seems like a better option for a little more points. One more attack die, a rear arc, and more health.

Has anybody had any success with the torrents?

You could send those ships to me. Just an option if you cant find any use for them.

I think a load of GSTs and an I5/6 lock feeder, everybody with SynCon and all those GSTs with Homing Missiles is the ONLY way I can see Torrents working atm. They're underwhelming, which is sad to me, because I love the ship

3 hours ago, Greebwahn said:

I think a load of GSTs and an I5/6 lock feeder, everybody with SynCon and all those GSTs with Homing Missiles is the ONLY way I can see Torrents working atm. They're underwhelming, which is sad to me, because I love the ship

I second that.

Only thing i came up with so far is this list, and i havent tested it yet:

Obi-Wan Kenobi (53)
Delta-7B (17)
Synchronized Console (2)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)
Total: 200

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I'm tempted to say homing missiles, one automatic damage times 4 is pretty good. If you can get a target lock.

My first thought was

"Sinker" (54)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)

Gold Squadron Trooper (25)

"Wolffe" (51)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)
Total: 198

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Simple, cheapest way to double up on seventh fleet gunner. And get the abilities going on too. lots of 3 and 4 dice attacks going out with mods.

"Sinker" (54)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)
R5 Astromech (4)
Hull Upgrade (3)

Blue Squadron Protector (29)
Dedicated (3)

Blue Squadron Protector (29)
Dedicated (3)

Blue Squadron Protector (29)
Dedicated (3)

Blue Squadron Protector (29)
Dedicated (3)
Total: 198

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An attempt at defensive, lots of dedicated, less punch but more staying power.... I am am stuck on sinker though at the moment. I have not even put them on the table yet. I doubt they are amazing, I;m hoping for half decent if flown well.

Has anyone tried something like this...

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 30
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Cluster Missiles (5)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 37
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Cluster Missiles (5)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - •“Odd Ball” - 46
•“Odd Ball” - CC-2237 (38)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Cluster Missiles (5)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 82
•Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60)
R2 Astromech (4)
Delta-7B (18)

Total: 195/200


Getting locks for a range 1-2 missile isn't too hard (often locking at r3 then your opponent moves into range 1-2), and with swarm tactics you're more likely to be ps killing things than it happening to you. Question is can 3 of these things stay within range 1 of each other while also lining up shots? The 3 banks being red hurts them a lot imo. Although if there's a bunch of vultures sitting on rocks I imagine they'd be gobbled up by this list.

If they can this list easily throws 21 red dice and you've got Anakin for the late game.

Thanks for the feedback, everyone! I think it’ll be hard to field more than 3 torrents and still have them be effective. The sync’d console is fun, but if you pass a lock to a gold squadron trooper only to have it drop before it fires, you’re dead in the water. I’m beginning to think battle meditation may be the way to go:

General Kenobi

(42) 104th Battalion Pilot [ARC-170 Starfighter]
Points: 42

(29) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
Points: 35

(53) Obi-Wan Kenobi [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(17) Delta-7B
(4) R2 Astromech
(13) Battle Meditation
Points: 87

(29) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(6) Concussion Missiles
Points: 35

Total points: 199

I like the look of this list. Obi-Wan double coordinates the torrents with I-5 locks, resulting in two double-modded shots and two single-modded shots. The blue’s are less likely to get PS killed. Obi-Wan’s a good endgame piece. Thoughts?

On 3/25/2019 at 8:21 AM, FriendofYoda said:

Has anyone tried something like this...

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 30
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Cluster Missiles (5)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 37
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Cluster Missiles (5)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - •“Odd Ball” - 46
•“Odd Ball” - CC-2237 (38)
Swarm Tactics (3)
Cluster Missiles (5)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Anakin Skywalker - 82
•Anakin Skywalker - Hero of the Republic (60)
R2 Astromech (4)
Delta-7B (18)

Total: 195/200

I think the only problem with cluster missiles is not having a good range three option. If you lock at range three, you may not have another chance to shoot if you don’t get a good shot in that turn. Those energy-shell charges are pretty devastating at range three...

A nice trio with the squadron pack includes 2 blues squad torrents, each with dedicated and clusters, plus a jedi knight with 7B and battle meditation. It leaves a obi wan sized amount of points left, and the torrents should stick around

Edited by Roller of blanks

Nice. This looks pretty good!

Blue Squadron

(53) Obi-Wan Kenobi [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(8) Calibrated Laser Targeting
Points: 61

(29) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(5) Cluster Missiles
(3) Dedicated
Points: 37

(29) Blue Squadron Protector [V-19 Torrent Starfighter]
(5) Cluster Missiles
(3) Dedicated
Points: 37

(39) Jedi Knight [Delta-7 Aethersprite]
(15) Delta-7B
(9) Battle Meditation
Points: 63

Total points: 198

25 minutes ago, Roller of blanks said:

A nice trio with the squadron pack includes 2 blues squad torrents, each with dedicated and clusters, plus a jedi knight with 7B and battle meditation. It leaves a obi wan sized amount of points left, and the torrents should stick around

I'm thinking about giving this a try later this week. The Cluster Missiles could be swapped out for Homing Missiles (or possibly even Ion Missiles with a 4pt bid).

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Ahsoka Tano - 56
•Ahsoka Tano - “Snips" (47)
Battle Meditation (9)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Total: 200/200

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I've only flown it a few times but a single V-19 Gold Squadron Trooper seems like a decent filler ship/blocker for 25 points, the barrel roll linked to evade has been really useful for blocking and positioning.

Edited by agenttherock
9 hours ago, agenttherock said:

I've only flown it a few times but a single V-19 Gold Squadron Trooper seems like a decent filler ship/blocker for 25 points, the barrel roll linked to evade has been really useful for blocking and positioning.

How about their dial, didnt it hinder them in this role? Thinking of 3 bank for example...

2 hours ago, Rangor said:

How about their dial, didnt it hinder them in this role? Thinking of 3 bank for example...

I've only got 3 games in with Torrents so far...and the dial is the biggest drawback. That 3 bank being red is a killer. So far I've been underwhelmed by the Torrent, but part of that is certainly figuring out how to best use them.

On 3/27/2019 at 9:19 AM, Rangor said:

How about their dial, didnt it hinder them in this role? Thinking of 3 bank for example...

Definitely hindered it somewhat, the barrel roll->evade made up for a lot of it for me though, when I was trying to block, you've gotta fly it differently from a z-95 or Tie fighter to block properly though, the red 3 bank is sorely missed.

On 3/26/2019 at 11:49 AM, NeonWolf said:

I'm thinking about giving this a try later this week. The Cluster Missiles could be swapped out for Homing Missiles (or possibly even Ion Missiles with a 4pt bid).

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Ahsoka Tano - 56
•Ahsoka Tano - “Snips" (47)
Battle Meditation (9)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 36
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Total: 200/200

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Got a game with this list over the weekend. Feel like it could be good with more practice. Didn't use Ahsoka's ability or BattleMed and feel like the Blues can be downgraded to Golds. The extra 16 points can be used to give Ahsoka a 7B upgrade or swap her out for a different Jedi.

Had one turn set up for a Cluster swarm but the Torrent with the lock got Init Killed before he could pass it.

Edited by NeonWolf

Wolffe/Sinker, both with 7th Fleet, and 3 naked Torrents went 6-0 in the Adepticon hyperspace qualifier. Not a bad place to start.

I only own two so options are a little limited but I think they make good juke platforms.

ARC-170 Starfighter - 104th Battalion Pilot - 51
104th Battalion Pilot - (42)
R3 Astromech (3)
Synchronized Console (2)
Veteran Tail Gunner (4)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 41
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Juke (5)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Odd Ball” - 67
•“Odd Ball” - CC-2237 (55)
Debris Gambit (3)
R3 Astromech (3)
Synchronized Console (2)
Veteran Tail Gunner (4)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Blue Squadron Protector - 41
Blue Squadron Protector - (29)
Juke (5)
Cluster Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Total: 200/200

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Edited by KingmanHighborn