I've played nothing but Scum since Wave 3 of First Edition but I find them uninspiring in the Hyperspace format. I think it's time to branch out to a second faction. This list has been built with both action economy and real economy in mind. I should be able to get everything I need in the Guardians box with an extra Arc thereby not breaking the bank.

The basic idea is that the V-19s flank the Arc who hands out his multiple Target Locks to them while they Focus (perhaps to be re-focused by Obi-Wan). Using Homing Missiles on the V-19's means that they may not have even have to spend the locks when they have them, with Synchronised Console giving them the option to spread them around and even pass them back to the Arc if necessary.

Obi-Wan takes advantage of his ability to reposition and get behind people using his astromech.

What do you think? The Arc is a bit points heavy for my taste and the Veteran Gunner might be an indulgence, but it seems like a good idea to get two shots a turn if I can.

Constructive criticism welcomed.

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Obi-Wan Kenobi - 66
•Obi-Wan Kenobi - Guardian of the Republic (53)
•R4-P17 (5)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (8)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 32
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 32
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Jag” - 70
•“Jag” - CT-55/11-9009 (49)
Proton Torpedoes (12)
R3 Astromech (3)
Synchronized Console (2)
Veteran Tail Gunner (4)

Total: 200/200

I would trade the Torps and VTG for Palp. Keep him Palp side up, and either your opponent gets stressed or gives Jag (and co.) a lock

You can also scrap one Synched Console, since the last one usually doesn't want to pass along the TL.

Thanks folks. I like the way Palpatine actively encourages people to trigger Jag's ability.

I could drop a Synched Console, but that would require my positioning to be spot on so the right VT-19 ends up with it. I'm not sure I can pull that off. The flexibility of range 3 is probably a requirement for a sloppy flier like me!

I like the changes and have updated the list.

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Obi-Wan Kenobi - 66
•Obi-Wan Kenobi - Guardian of the Republic (53)
•R4-P17 (5)
Calibrated Laser Targeting (8)

ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Jag” - 68
•“Jag” - CT-55/11-9009 (49)
•Chancellor Palpatine (14)
R3 Astromech (3)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 32
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 32
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)
Homing Missiles (5)
Synchronized Console (2)

Total: 198/200

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Extensive playtesting has confirmed what all the Republic focused podcasts have been saying for a few weeks... the only good V-19 is a naked V-19. They go down really fast, rarely get both Homing Missiles off and even if they do the opponent plinks a shield and it's five points wasted since you could just shoot them with your primary weapon and most likely achieve the same result.

Similarly, the only good Aethersprite is a Delta-7B Aethersprite. I know Anakin is everyone's go to Jedi but I just love Obi- Wan too much to abandon him. But regen is strong so he gets an R2 so he can stay around for longer with his crazy good three force points.

Jag just wasn't able to stay in position long enough to proc his ability so I've upgraded him to Wolffe and given him the mandatory 7th Fleet Gunner. I still like Palp on him because I genuinely don't think there's a better option for the points. An alternative would be to drop the Arc to a 104th with only 7th Fleet Gunner and add a third naked V-19, but that's one more V-19 than I own.

What do people think?

Delta-7 Aethersprite - •Obi-Wan Kenobi - 74
•Obi-Wan Kenobi - Guardian of the Republic (53)
R2 Astromech (4)
Delta-7B (17)

ARC-170 Starfighter - •“Wolffe” - 74
•“Wolffe” - CC-3636 (51)
•Chancellor Palpatine (14)
Seventh Fleet Gunner (9)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 25
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)

V-19 Torrent Starfighter - Gold Squadron Trooper - 25
Gold Squadron Trooper - (25)

Total: 198/200

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Obi (Delta 7B) Anakin (CLT) & Wolffe with VTG. Forget the torrents. Or some combination of ARC jedi.

I suspect naked V-19s are much underrated, but only more flying will prove that one way or the other.

Afraid I don't *own* two Aethersprites!

Having had a play around with the list builder I *do* like the look of Obi-Wan as above, Wolffe with VtG and Palp and 104th with 7th Fleet Gunner and and R2 (to exploit the disarm token).

Might need to invest in a second Arc!

I can't shake the suspicion that four ships is still better than three though in terms of red dice output, blocking ability and presenting target priority conundrums.

Agree with you there, but I couldn't make the **** things work yet either.

In the first list, I'm inclined to think there are a few too many points on most of the ships.

By stripping the ARC and Torrent down to bare bones, you could run 2x 104th ARCs and 2x Torrents with the same Obi-Wan. I kinda think having a 5th ship is more powerful than SynCon Homing Missile tricks, which are cute if you can pull them off, but seem... kinda pricey.

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Second list of 7B Obi, Palp-Wolfe-2x Torrent looks solid to me.

Cluster swarm v-19s are deadly. Ditch homing missiles.

2 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

Sec ond list of 7B Obi, Palp-Wolfe-2x Torrent looks solid to me.

Yes I think I've moved on from the lists at the top and this is where I am right now.

48 minutes ago, KingmanHighborn said:

Cluster swarm v-19s are deadly. Ditch homing missiles.

I had wondered about V-19 swarms. The list I'm currently running is the bottom one with the Homing Missiles ditched and everything *else* ditched from the V-19s :).

5 hours ago, Waldorf28 said:

I had wondered about V-19 swarms. The list I'm currently running is the bottom one with the Homing Missiles ditched and everything *else* ditched from the V-19s :).

Clusters if anything. Try and run sync console on Obi or Wolffe (or both). One torrent gets a lock the other a focus & ARC get focus. Obi can roll in, grab a target lock on a defender, attacks, but doesn’t use the lock, then spends it with sync con to give Wolffe a lock on the same defender, Wolffe attacks but keeps the target lock but spends a focus and if he’s within range 2 of Obi, Obi can spend a force to give Wolffe a focus. If a torrent is within range 1 of Wolffe, Wolffe can spend his lock with sync con to give the torrent a lock on the defender. And the torrent lets loose with a cluster missile on the defender and if there is someone within range 1 of that defender the torrent can fire clusters at that target as well. This torrent will probably spend the lock and/or focus. The other torrent could use clusters as well since they have a lock and can potentially fire at two different targets.

This approach takes a fair amount of setup to get right but it’s good against swarms of A wings or Ties. Or anywhere you’ve setup a killbox with the right range between ships. Very conditional but very effective against trapped targets.

I fear the "fair amount of setup to get right" would most likely defeat me! I just don't think I have the pilot skill to get the positioning right. My lists need to be generous to clumsy fliers. Beefing up Obi-Wan with Delta-7B has been an important part of that!

True. You have to be good at flying to pull this off. It is very conditional so unless you can keep all the requirements in check it won’t work. Even if you do keep the requirements in check they may not move where you want them to. But think that this is one way to use the capabilities of the squad in a complimentary manner. You are right though, Obi requires Delta-7B.

Top 4 in a HS in my area with that list. Beat during the swiss both the Event Final winner and the fourth player of the Demi-Finale.

Lose because I became too aggressive with a poor Obiwan that went in 1 round from 3hulls + 2 shields, to dead after receiving 7 success attack dices vs all blank green... (hate greenies).. not happy Obi..

On the first Cut round, went VS 4 ARCs. Lost my Anakin during the second engagement (well blocked!). Ended up winning despite the numerous blocks of my opponent. People basing their strategy on blocking their opponent tend to forget one very important thing... They are saving the "blocked" ship from an attack - and I am still getting my mod from the FORCE

Jedi Aces are made for patient players.... I love them.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (53)
R2 Astromech (4)
Delta-7B (17)

Ship total: 74 Half Points: 37 Threshold: 3

Anakin Skywalker (60)
R2 Astromech (4)
Delta-7B (18)

Ship total: 82 Half Points: 41 Threshold: 3

104th Battalion Pilot (42)
Ship total: 42 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 5


Total: 198

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