Imperial for Extended Tournament

By LtDodge, in X-Wing Squad Lists

I'm attending an extended tournament soon and, as always, I don't know what I'm going to bring! A couple things to note: I am Striker-less (though I might be able to fix that if my store received their Wave 3) and Hate-less.

Lately, I've been having a lot of fun and casual success with this TIE Salad but I'm a little doubtful of my ability to keep track of everything over a whole day of flying and of the list's overall competitiveness:

Major Vermeil (49)
Crack Shot (1)
Ship total: 50

Sigma Squadron Ace (46)
Juke (5)
Ship total: 51

Darth Vader (65)
Fire-Control System (2)
Ship total: 67

Gideon Hask (30)
Crack Shot (1)
Ship total: 31
Total: 199
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The other lists I'm debating taking is Vader and Soontir with Friend, either a fat Vynder or a Shuttle carrying Grand Inquisitor (as inspired by the Inqi Ace's list). I love flying the fat Vynder, but, again, concerned about his ability to work well in a tournament. Keeping him Weapons Disabled means my opponents have to chew through 7 health backed up by 3 (unreliable) green dice. But that can often be 3 green dice without a focus. The threat of Outmanoeuvre with torps also means trouble if they let me get him behind any of their ships.

Darth Vader (65)
Fire-Control System (2)
Afterburners (6)
Ship total: 73

Soontir Fel (52)
Predator (2)
Ship total: 54

With Vynder:
Major Vynder (39)
Outmaneuver (6)
Fire-Control System (2)
Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6)
Advanced SLAM (3)
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout (0)
Proton Torpedoes (12)
Ship total: 68
Total: 195

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With Shuttle carrying GI:
Lieutenant Sai (47)
Jamming Beam (0)
Grand Inquisitor (14)
ST-321 (4)
Ship total: 65
Total: 192

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Thoughts? Suggestions?

Edited by LtDodge

I am going to an extended tournament this weekend. I wanted to bring 4 imperial list and l have settled on this:

Alpha -class Star Wing - Nu Squadron Pilot - 47
Nu Squadron Pilot - (32)
Proton Torpedoes (12)
Advanced SLAM (3)
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout (0)

Alpha -class Star Wing - Nu Squadron Pilot - 47
Nu Squadron Pilot - (32)
Proton Torpedoes (12)
Advanced SLAM (3)
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout (0)

Lambda -class T-4a Shuttle - •Colonel Jendon - 56
•Colonel Jendon - Darth Vader’s Shuttle Pilot (46)
•Admiral Sloane (10)

TIE Advanced x1 - •Maarek Stele - 49
•Maarek Stele - Servant of the Empire (46)
Marksmanship (1)
Fire-Control System (2)

Total: 199/200

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I had success with Vader (Hate, FCS) + 3 Imdaar phantoms (199 pts). Went 3-1 with an MoV of 1119, finishing 2nd out of 9. You could always switch Hate and FCS out for Afterburners to land on a round 200 pts.

Vader is a solid ship and probably one of the Empire's best end-game pieces. The 3 Imdaars fly as a joust swarm and are terrifyingly efficient. However, if you prefer a more acey feel, you might consider the following...

Darth Vader (65)
Hate (3)
Fire-Control System (2)
Afterburners (6)

“Whisper” (54)
Juke (5)
Fifth Brother (9)

“Echo” (50)
Juke (5)
Total: 199

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Vader is probably a bit overkill with all 3 upgrades but he'll hit like a hammer and if played well will be quite survivable with Hate to regen force, FCS to improve action economy (he doesn't need it though tbf) and afterburners to get out of those extra sticky situations or into kill range/arcs.

Whisper loves fifth brother. It is possible, after firing, for whisper to be sat with 2 evade tokens, focus and a force token - improves survivability dramatically (in my experience, math hammer may disagree). Juke is an autoinclude for any phantom noting they generate a "free" evade token after decloaking.

Echo is very point efficient - plus she's a phantom so you really can't go wrong!

All three ships in this list hit hard, have good action economy, good movement options/unpredictability and can all function as late game closers. You've also got a 1 pt bid which won't beat the ace list purists, gives you that edge over fully stocked lists :)

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Comments on your second list - take the shuttle with the Grand Inq. That pairs beautifully with Vader and Soontir.

My vote is Vader, Vynder, Soontir. That being said, I wouldn't at all mind cutting some upgrades to fit a generic TIE in again