Delta 7B Title and Shield/Hull Upgrade

By j_man_04, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I've noticed in the official app that adding the Delta 7B title, which lowers your agility, doesn't affect the cost of adding a shield/hull upgrade. Is that because it's still part of the list building step? I feel like if you're taking the title to lower your agility it should make those upgrade cheaper.

Oh and stealth device too, I guess.

Just now, kempokid said:

I've noticed in the official app that adding the Delta 7B title, which lowers your agility, doesn't affect the cost of adding a shield/hull upgrade. Is that because it's still part of the list building step? I feel like if you're taking the title to lower your agility it should make those upgrade cheaper.

Base stats and not upgrade-adjusted stats are used, per the rules reference (RR, FAQ/List Building, p. 23)

Q: If a ship equips an upgrade that alters one of its values (such as agility), how does this affect variable cost upgrades?

A: Other upgrades are ignored when calculating variable costs, and the base values of the ship are used.

I would classify that as a bug, but it's really hard to say what is working as designed or what is broken in the official app.

Nevermind

Edited by joeshmoe554

You may not like it, but it is clear and makes working it out easier.

*too many ninjas*

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Just now, Max Teranous said:

You may not like it, but it is clear and makes working it out easier.

I'm glad @theBitterFig found the rules reference. No arguments from me. But an app that can make upgrades and points dependent on other factors, I can't imagine this being difficult if they wanted to change the rules. That's why the app exists: to adapt and add variables.

1 minute ago, theBitterFig said:

In this case, the answer is literally in the Rules Reference: it's working as designed.

Pardon me if this is bad form, since I clearly ninja'd your post.

No problem, I edited my post the moment I saw yours. It does mean I'll have to modify my squadbuilder sadly.

1 minute ago, joeshmoe554 said:

No problem, I edited my post the moment I saw yours. It does mean I'll have to modify my squadbuilder sadly.

I edited my post the moment I saw your edit.

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