I keep looking at Anakin and I keep wondering where the timing is for each trigger. Each one states after you fully execute a maneuver- you can do whatever. Or in R4s case after you execute a red maneuver.

One question is, does this work? Anakin fully executes a 2 speed segnors loop> use Anakin ability> use fine tuned controls for a barrel roll> spend a charge from R4 to do a action> perform anakins standard action

Do all three share the same timing window? And thus let you choose the order to use them?

Also does Anakin's ability trigger first or afterburners? Or is that the same timing window?

Everything that's not the perform action step shares a timing window and can be queued in whatever order you prefer.

30 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

Everything that's not the perform action step shares a timing window and can be queued in whatever order you prefer.

So the scenario I mentioned...I can actually do that?

13 minutes ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

So the scenario I mentioned...I can actually do that?

Yup!

7 minutes ago, Innese said:

Yup!

...huh...thats awesome

Oh I am so going to play Anakin a bunch even more now, thanks.

On 3/20/2019 at 8:39 PM, Innese said:

Yup!

Just picked up the new stuff tonight and have a question related to the OP's question. Can Force Users use force tokens to perform actions if they are stressed. This came up in open play tonight.

2 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Just picked up the new stuff tonight and have a question related to the OP's question. Can Force Users use force tokens to perform actions if they are stressed. This came up in open play tonight.

Not unless they have an upgrade that lets them "spend force charge(s) to perform action(s) even while stressed."

8 hours ago, Orcdruid said:

Not unless they have an upgrade that lets them "spend force charge(s) to perform action(s) even while stressed."

@Stoneface , for a little more clarity, as of now I'm not aware of such an upgrade...

I'm not aware of an upgrade either but Ahsoka Tano's ability does allow any friendly range 0-1 to do so after she fully executes a maneuver and spends a force token.

So, back to the timing of this. So the phrase "after you fully execute a maneuver".

In the RR p13 under Maneuver. Does the ship ability fine tuned controls trigger in between 1 and 2 or after 2.

1. Maneuver ship

1a<---------- Fine tune controls here?

2. Check Difficulty

2a<--------- or fine tune controls here?

So if fine tune controls is at 1a. Then a Jedi can perform a Segnors Loop, spend force to perform boost or barrel roll then take stress. Would this be correct?

Yes, the timing is important and the rules aren't clear when a maneuver is fully executed. However since both step 1 and 2 are part of the maneuver, I would guess both steps are done to fully execute the maneuver. So probably won't get to do a red maneuver and then the boost.

6 hours ago, kevbrim said:

So, back to the timing of this. So the phrase "after you fully execute a maneuver".

In the RR p13 under Maneuver. Does the ship ability fine tuned controls trigger in between 1 and 2 or after 2.

1. Maneuver ship

1a<---------- Fine tune controls here?

2. Check Difficulty

2a<--------- or fine tune controls here?

So if fine tune controls is at 1a. Then a Jedi can perform a Segnors Loop, spend force to perform boost or barrel roll then take stress. Would this be correct?

After the maneuver is after the entire process. You would be stressed, turning off FTC. Anakin just gets a workaround because his ability sheds the stress.

On 3/23/2019 at 6:21 AM, svelok said:

After the maneuver is after the entire process. You would be stressed, turning off FTC. Anakin just gets a workaround because his ability sheds the stress.

Yea, after slowing down and reading carefully, I came to the same conclusion.

If all of this happens in the same time slot, you can not use R4-P17 to get someone into the Bulls Fire Arc and then trigger Anakin's ability, right?

26 minutes ago, aprice said:

If all of this happens in the same time slot, you can not use R4-P17 to get someone into the Bulls Fire Arc and then trigger Anakin's ability, right?

Incorrect.

When a whole bunch of things have the same timing, you choose the order in whicht o apply them, so you CAN use P17 (or Afterburners) to boost/roll into range 1 arc or Bullseye, then resolve Anakin's ability.

This also works R4-P44 and in effect giving you a reposition to get Anakin into bullseye and gaining a calc token

So if I give Anakin D7B config, afterburners & R4-P44 I can do red maneuver boost with Afterburners, trigger ability, Barrel Roll with R4-P44 then perform an action. I could also trigger those in any order as long as the regular action comes after the anakin remove stress step. Seems like a pretty good option to me. I just want to be sure I'm right about this when I go to play it.

2 hours ago, Zorprime said:

So if I give Anakin D7B config, afterburners & R4-P44 I can do red maneuver boost with Afterburners, trigger ability, Barrel Roll with R4-P44 then perform an action. I could also trigger those in any order as long as the regular action comes after the anakin remove stress step. Seems like a pretty good option to me. I just want to be sure I'm right about this when I go to play it.

i don't see where you get the barrel roll from, but you can get a calculate token with R4-P44, or you can use R4-P17 instead to barrel roll or focus or lock or evade. also, the config doesn't matter.

you can perform a speed four or five k-turn maneuver, boost with afterburners (can't do this if you s-loop since s-loops are only speed two) by spending a charge on it, barrel roll or perform any other action with R4-P17 by spending a charge on it, use anakins ability by spending a force if you have an enemy ship in bullseye or at range one in front arc to loose your stress - and then get your regular perform action step.

you can also do any of these or all of these things in any order that suits the situation at hand. it's going to be a pretty expensive ship, though. especially with the D7B configuration. (in fact, it's 89 points, lol. just throw in supernatural reflexes for even more flexibility, why don't you? only lands on 121 points in total.)

i think anakin is most viable with only R4-P17. should let him clear his stress and get another action in most cases (possibly even another reposition with fine tuned controls before that). he's 65 points that way.

7 hours ago, meffo said:

i don't see where you get the barrel roll from, but you can get a calculate token with R4-P44, or you can use R4-P17 instead to barrel roll or focus or lock or evade. also, the config doesn't matter.

you can perform a speed four or five k-turn maneuver, boost with afterburners (can't do this if you s-loop since s-loops are only speed two) by spending a charge on it, barrel roll or perform any other action with R4-P17 by spending a charge on it, use anakins ability by spending a force if you have an enemy ship in bullseye or at range one in front arc to loose your stress - and then get your regular perform action step.

you can also do any of these or all of these things in any order that suits the situation at hand. it's going to be a pretty expensive ship, though. especially with the D7B configuration. (in fact, it's 89 points, lol. just throw in supernatural reflexes for even more flexibility, why don't you? only lands on 121 points in total.)

i think anakin is most viable with only R4-P17. should let him clear his stress and get another action in most cases (possibly even another reposition with fine tuned controls before that). he's 65 points that way.

Thanks I may have used the wrong droid name.

On 3/26/2019 at 10:31 PM, meffo said:

i think anakin is most viable with only R4-P17. should let him clear his stress and get another action in most cases (possibly even another reposition with fine tuned controls before that). he's 65 points that way. 

Agreed, though if you're hunting bullseye shots, Calibrated Laser Targeting does become very tempting.

On 3/28/2019 at 1:46 PM, Magnus Grendel said:

Agreed, though if you're hunting bullseye shots, Calibrated Laser Targeting does become very tempting.

Just played Anakin with R4-P17 and CLT. He's a monster like that, well worth his 75 points