Standby and Krennic Clarification

By Manchester, in Star Wars: Legion

I’ve never really used the standby action before so I have numerous questions to ask and hopefully someone can clarify them with me

1. For Krennics Deploy the Garrison command card, do the troopers get assigned there standby token before they activate or as a free action WHEN they activate

2. If assigned to a death trooper, does it get its aim token from the READY ability, as essentially they don’t perform the action

3. If assigned before they activate, if they perform any action, does the token disappear

4. Does Krennics compel ability allow snowtroopers to perform their STEADY ability, and if so, perform an aim action before it attacks

sorry if I am quite unclear as I’m not the most experienced player

1) They would preform that action when assigned the order, so before they are activated.

2) Yes, because they are taking the standby action.

3) • If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens it has.

4) Yes, if they are suppressed and not paniced, they can do aim with their one action and then gain a suppression to do a free move action which triggers steady.

By the card:

1. Deploy the garrison reads: "At the start of the Activation Phase"
2. "Each chosen unit may perform a free standby action" and "Ready 1 After you perform a standby action, gain 1 aim token"
3. RRG, p. 55: "If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens it has."
4. Yes, stormtroopers can use Steady in result of a Compel, as Compel grants move action. No, they don't have a chance to aim first, as Compel happens immediately after Rally, before other actions.

1) The units perform the free Standby Action at the start of the Activation Phase.

2) The Ready keyword would trigger since the unit is performing a Standby Action.

3) From Page 55 of the RRG: "If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens it has." So yes, the token would disappear if the unit perform an action during their activation.

4) Yes they can attack, due to resolving a move action. No, the attack must take place IMMEDIATELY after the triggering move action, no intervening (non-triggered free) actions can take place.

Edited by Caimheul1313
2 minutes ago, Gridloc said:

1) They would preform that action when assigned the order, so before they are activated.

That is not true. The effect of Deploy the Garrison happens at the start of Activation Phase, after the Command Phase.

2 minutes ago, Gridloc said:

1) They would preform that action when assigned the order, so before they are activated.

2) Yes, because they are taking the standby action.

3) • If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens it has.

4) Yes, if they are suppressed and not paniced, they can do aim with their one action and then gain a suppression to do a free move action which triggers steady.

1 minute ago, Shanturin said:

By the card:

1. Deploy the garrison reads: "At the start of the Activation Phase"
2. "Each chosen unit may perform a free standby action" and "Ready 1 After you perform a standby action, gain 1 aim token"
3. RRG, p. 55: "If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens it has."
4. Yes, stormtroopers can use Steady in result of a Compel, as Compel grants move action. No, they don't have a chance to aim first, as Compel happens immediately after Rally, before other actions.

Thanks both for clearing this. However I am still unclear for 4, as it states on compel after rallying ,not immediately

3 minutes ago, Shanturin said:

That is not true. The effect of Deploy the Garrison happens at the start of Activation Phase, after the Command Phase.

Which is an important distinction because it means trooper units with face up order tokens from effects like HQ Uplink are eligible.

2 minutes ago, Manchester said:

Thanks both for clearing this. However I am still unclear for 4, as it states on compel after rallying ,not immediately

"After X" means "immediatly after X happens" not "sometime after X happens" in Legion.

Page 11 of the RRG Abilities: "If the timing of an ability uses the word “after,” that ability’s effect occurs immediately after the described timing event has occurred."

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1 minute ago, Manchester said:

Thanks both for clearing this. However I am still unclear for 4, as it states on compel after rallying ,not immediately

'Immediately' isn't really a meaningful game term in the rules. They can't aim before the compel move. Compel happens after rallying and before main actions are chosen

2 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

Which is an important distinction because it means trooper units with face up order tokens from effects like HQ Uplink are eligible.

"After X" means "immediatly after X happens" not "sometime after X happens" in Legion.

Page 11 of the RRG Abilities: "If the timing of an ability uses the word “after,” that ability’s effect occurs immediately after the described timing event has occurred."

1 minute ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

'Immediately' isn't really a meaningful game term in the rules. They can't aim before the compel move. Compel happens after rallying and before main actions are chosen

So if I’m correct they can only perform dodge or recover or move action afterwards

1 minute ago, Manchester said:

So if I’m correct they can only perform dodge or recover or move action afterwards

Or another move, as that is the one action you are not limited to 1 per activation.

7 minutes ago, Shanturin said:

That is not true. The effect of Deploy the Garrison happens at the start of Activation Phase, after the Command Phase.

Thanks, I misread it, thats what I get for answering from the hip. The wording is bit different than the 3pip Veers so makes sense as it reduces the abusiveness of this card.

7 minutes ago, Manchester said:

So if I’m correct they can only perform dodge or recover or move action afterwards

They could still take the Aim action, which might be useful if you have Palpatine to target them for Pulling the Strings later (which can result in another Move Action triggering Steady) or any available card actions. But yes, they are unable to take the Attack or Standby actions as they have already attacked during this activation.

Edited by Caimheul1313
9 minutes ago, Caimheul1313 said:

They could still take the Aim action, which might be useful if you have Palpatine to target them for Pulling the Strings later (which can result in another Move Action triggering Steady) or any available card actions. But yes, they are unable to take the Attack or Standby actions as they have already attacked during this activation.

But I thought you can’t attack again even from Palpatines ability. One attack per round including Free Attacks I thought...

8 minutes ago, Manchester said:

But I thought you can’t attack again even from Palpatines ability. One attack per round including Free Attacks I thought...

You cannot take more than one Attack ACTION during your activation. Page 14 "Attack," emphasis mine:

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During a unit’s activation, it is possible for a unit to perform more than one attack through the use of card abilities or other game effects; however, that unit can only perform one attack action during a single activation, regardless of whether it is an attack action or a free attack action.

That is the only restriction, and why Son of Skywalker says "perform one additional Attack" rather than "attack action". Pulling the Strings happens during a different unit's activation, so it does allow for the targeted unit to attack more than once during the round.

Edited by Caimheul1313
3 hours ago, Manchester said:

But I thought you can’t attack again even from Palpatines ability. One attack per round including Free Attacks I thought...

You can attack multiple times in a round, but you can only do one Attack Action during an Activation.