8 minutes ago, outerrimrebel said:

By any chance did SoS come with Discord Missiles?

It did not. The only copy comes with the stand-alone Vulture droid.

Even if you can't post pictures what are the threat build cards for the Republic like? That can give a ball park idea what the Jedi's, V-19s, and Arcs cost.

...oh and I guess the Separatist as well...okay I am not too interested in that but I imagine others are.

15 minutes ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

Even if you can't post pictures what are the threat build cards for the Republic like? That can give a ball park idea what the Jedi's, V-19s, and Arcs cost.

...oh and I guess the Separatist as well...okay I am not too interested in that but I imagine others are.

It’s going to be tough to get a feel by the threats with the Jedi especially. They’ve kitted them out with 4+ upgrades in some cases. Like Mace is the highest threat at level 4, but he’s got SNR, R2, Delta config, Afterburners, and a Shield Upgrade. That’s a lot of points in upgrades. On the low end, you have generic Jedi with just a Delta config at level 2. Everyone else at level 3 with various upgrades.

Mace’s Pilot card was also right after Obi-wan in the card stack, before Plo Koon who is higher initiative. That could be a giveaway about point order.

26 minutes ago, dadocollin said:

It’s going to be tough to get a feel by the threats with the Jedi especially. They’ve kitted them out with 4+ upgrades in some cases. Like Mace is the highest threat at level 4, but he’s got SNR, R2, Delta config, Afterburners, and a Shield Upgrade. That’s a lot of points in upgrades. On the low end, you have generic Jedi with just a Delta config at level 2. Everyone else at level 3 with various upgrades.

Not including Mace and the config (7B?) that is 34pts worth of upgrades. SNR: 16, R2: 4, Afterburners: 6, Shield Upgrade: 8.

1 hour ago, dadocollin said:

It did not. The only copy comes with the stand-alone Vulture droid.

Thank you, it's what I figured they were going to do. No sense in buying the Vulture pack if it's in the SoS pack.

27 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

Not including Mace and the config (7B?) that is 34pts worth of upgrades. SNR: 16, R2: 4, Afterburners: 6, Shield Upgrade: 8.

Yes the Delta-7B configuration, which I would think wouldn’t be cheap. You swap attack/defense, but get +2 shields.

Just one copy of discord missiles? Dang.

6 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

Not including Mace and the config (7B?) that is 34pts worth of upgrades. SNR: 16, R2: 4, Afterburners: 6, Shield Upgrade: 8.

For 4 threats, which is about 100pts -> Mace + 7B is about 65pts -> Mace 60-ish (7B might be more than 5 points).

3 minutes ago, NilsTillander said:

For 4 threats, which is about 100pts -> Mace + 7B is about 65pts -> Mace 60-ish (7B might be more than 5 points).

Which means that three named 7b should be possible, if only with minimal upgrades.

Just now, millertime059 said:

Which means that three named 7b should be possible, if only with minimal upgrades.

Likely yes. Or 2 ARCs and a D7B.

7 hours ago, Hiemfire said:

Not including Mace and the config (7B?) that is 34pts worth of upgrades. SNR: 16, R2: 4, Afterburners: 6, Shield Upgrade: 8.

6 hours ago, dadocollin said:

Yes the Delta-7B configuration, which I would think wouldn’t be cheap. You swap attack/defense, but get +2 shields.

Which raises a question on the shield upgrade, which has a points cost based on agility... does it’s cost vary according to whether or not you have the configuration equipped?

16 minutes ago, DexterOnone said:

Which raises a question on the shield upgrade, which has a points cost based on agility... does it’s cost vary according to whether or not you have the configuration equipped?

I...think it does? Its not a dual side card so if you equip it its stat changes are immediate.

Like say putting Squad Leader on someone and then being able to put on a tactical officer or putting on a turret on a Y-wing and then being able to put on veteran turret gunner.

6 hours ago, DexterOnone said:

Which raises a question on the shield upgrade, which has a points cost based on agility... does it’s cost vary according to whether or not you have the configuration equipped?

5 hours ago, KiraYamatoSF said:

I...think it does? Its not a dual side card so if you equip it its stat changes are immediate.

Like say putting Squad Leader on someone and then being able to put on a tactical officer or putting on a turret on a Y-wing and then being able to put on veteran turret gunner.

Not per the FAQ section of thr Rules Reference.

I'd definitely argue that it should very if you have the cfg and if raw says otherwise raw should change.

On my computer now so here's the section. Pg. of the 23 Rules Reference.

LIST BUILDING
Q: If a ship equips an upgrade that alters one of its values (such as agility), how does this affect variable cost upgrades?
A: Other upgrades are ignored when calculating variable costs, and the base values of the ship are used.

1 Discord only in the Vulture Expansion? 1 Seventh Fleet Gunner in the ARC Pack?

No surprises there, but "UGH... "

4 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

1 Discord only in the Vulture Expansion? 1 Seventh Fleet Gunner in the ARC Pack?

No surprises there, but "UGH... "

As much as folks want more than one copy, I think it’s safe to expect that typically one upgrade per expansion is normal, unless it’s in a squad pack of multiple ships.

This is all the same it always has been for ffg.

planning on picking up 3-4 Vulture Droids.

Just now, ScummyRebel said:

As much as folks want more than one copy, I think it’s safe to expect that typically one upgrade per expansion is normal, unless it’s in a squad pack of multiple ships.

This is all the same it always has been for ffg.

Yes and no. A lot of large and medium base ships would include 2 copies of core upgrades in 1e. Original ARC-170 had 2x R3 Astromech and 2x Vectored Thrusters. Only 1x Tail Gunner, 1x Seismic Torpedo, so it's not certain.

4 minutes ago, ScummyRebel said:

As much as folks want more than one copy, I think it’s safe to expect that typically one upgrade per expansion is normal, unless it’s in a squad pack of multiple ships.

This is all the same it always has been for ffg.

Yeah, hence the "no surprise there" attitude, especially with the Seventh Fleet Gunner.

Still, not putting Discord Missiles into the Sep Squadron Pack was kind of a d*** move by FFG, as they easily could have included one or two copies there.

19 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

On my computer now so here's the section. Pg. of the 23 Rules Reference.

LIST BUILDING
Q: If a ship equips an upgrade that alters one of its values (such as agility), how does this affect variable cost upgrades?
A: Other upgrades are ignored when calculating variable costs, and the base values of the ship are used.

Ah well. Still think it should work thither way but at least it's 100% clear.

12 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

1 Discord only in the Vulture Expansion? 1 Seventh Fleet Gunner in the ARC Pack?

No surprises there, but "UGH... "

Also be aware the probe droids are only in the Infiltrator pack. I think the exclusive from the Aethersprite is Calibrated Laser Targeting:

4 minutes ago, dadocollin said:

Also be aware the probe droids are only in the Infiltrator pack. I think the exclusive from the Aethersprite is Calibrated Laser Targeting:

I'm about 85% that's in the squad pack too.

4 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

I'm about 85% that's in the squad pack too.

EDIT: OK, I think you're right based on the preview articles. I will double check later.

I know you get multiple copies of this one I believe: